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JAX 2025 Survey Results

With 14,016 responses, the JAX 2025 Community Survey is complete. Results indicate Jaxons are concerned about the vibrancy of downtown, the quality of public education, transportation, our ability to influence local government, and opportunities to find good paying jobs. Here is a look at the results of the JAX 2025 survey.

Published January 30, 2013 in News      39 Comments    Open printer friendly version of this article Print Article


39 Comments

Noone

January 30, 2013, 07:04:19 AM
Waterways-Yeah Right!
Who wants to kayak and fish Downtown under the brand new No Fishing signs that was never before Waterways? We'll put in at a Public spot that still needs a Mayor Brown kayak logo and we'll also kayak by SHIPYARDS III.

I am Downtown and why you aren't.

Ben Warner

January 30, 2013, 07:50:44 AM
I'm hoping to see a good MetroJax contingent on Saturday! John, you're winning over quite a few people with your views on the water and what we need to do to improve. Tip: While parking is free at the Prime Osborn for JAX2025 attendees, there are a couple of other events (UniverSoul Circus parking in the lots across from the Prime, the Jacksonville Gun Show also at the Prime) so attendees are encouraged to get there early, and the Skyway will be running as well.

May I suggest JAX2025 in the morning, then take the Skyway to Community First Saturday right afterwards?

Looking forward to seeing everyone there!

tufsu1

January 30, 2013, 10:34:29 AM
May I suggest JAX2025 in the morning, then take the Skyway to Community First Saturday right afterwards?

Looking forward to seeing everyone there!

great idea Ben!

from what I hear, Saturday's meeting will focus on the Top 10 issues (what should be improved slide above)....folks will be sitting at tables pre-set for one if these issues...and after some discussion, folks will rotate to a new table and a different issue.

Hope to see many of you there!

Noone

January 31, 2013, 01:22:45 PM
Sat. morning anyone interested in kayaking under the TU on McCoys Creek? I'll drop you off and you can walk up to the 2025 event at the Prime Osborn. Share that with your buds at the table. PM me. outgoing tides in the morning. Special shout out to anyone who will write a check for a buck to 2009-442 Artificial Reef Trust Fund.

I am Downtown and why you aren't.

simms3

February 01, 2013, 01:39:29 AM
Good responses.  Seems like a mentality change over the past few years if people across the city are unsatisfied with DT and transit.  To me, growing DT and improving transit would be the most important thing for a sunbelt city such as Jax.  The 1980s generation likes culture, vibrancy and mobility.  It remains to be seen what the 1990s generation wants, or certainly the 2000s babies (probably greater internet based connectivity rather than social in-person connectivity).

If these things are what the people want, where are the leaders to make it happen?  Where are the private sector leaders stepping up?  That's where I see a gaping hole.  Also, hate to play this card, but city living and transit systems are *expensive* publicly and privately.  The city deson't have the funding, the credit, the experience, the talent/intellectual capability, or the capital markets help to do expensive programs like Philly or Detroit.  It will take an exploding private sector and income growth to get masses of young professionals in infill and away from cheap apartments in Avondale/garden apartments in suburbs.

It will take a massive and well thought out effort from government to make that job growth possible.  The first step is unknown to me, I just know that sustainable urban growth will come from private sector job growth and income growth (which comes from attracting talent from elsewhere, more expensive talent), which has to be justified by corporate confidence and expansion in the city, which in turn is justified by some sort of signal or action from city government and a handful of private sector leaders.

thelakelander

February 01, 2013, 06:56:12 AM
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If these things are what the people want, where are the leaders to make it happen?  Where are the private sector leaders stepping up?  That's where I see a gaping hole.  Also, hate to play this card, but city living and transit systems are *expensive* publicly and privately.  The city deson't have the funding, the credit, the experience, the talent/intellectual capability, or the capital markets help to do expensive programs like Philly or Detroit.

The City of Detroit is nearly bankrupt.  Many of their downtown/urban core initiatives are being led and funded by their private sector/civic leaders who want a better city and have grown tired of their's being the red headed stepchild of the US. This is the element you mentioned that we've been missing here in Jax. We can be just as aggressive as these communities and we are when it comes to spending money. We just spend our money in different ways and for different things, which unfortunately indicates turning around our core may not be a higher priority to us as it is to them.

Tacachale

February 01, 2013, 11:19:24 AM
The survey does indicate a HUGE shift in thinking from even 15 years ago, let alone before that. Implementing these changes won't be nearly the uphill battle it has been before. Fortunately, that's where it starts.

CG7

March 19, 2013, 04:45:54 PM
I wanted to bump this thread to remind everyone that the next meeting is tonight from 6-8 at the convention center. It seems as though Metrojacksonville has turned into a bitch and whine fest, but if you really care about what is happening now and in the future in jacksonville you will be there to try and do something, instead of whining about nothing getting done. I hope to see mant MJ's there.

CG7

March 19, 2013, 04:47:16 PM
that should of course read many MJers.

stephendare

March 19, 2013, 04:53:01 PM
I wanted to bump this thread to remind everyone that the next meeting is tonight from 6-8 at the convention center. It seems as though Metrojacksonville has turned into a bitch and whine fest, but if you really care about what is happening now and in the future in jacksonville you will be there to try and do something, instead of whining about nothing getting done. I hope to see mant MJ's there.

Considering the input to 2025 from most of the posters of MJ, I dont doubt that you will.  Especially as Ennis was invited and joined the effort before it got underway in the public.

So, it will no doubt be nice to have you join the rest of us who have been there since the beginning.

Cheshire Cat

March 19, 2013, 06:19:56 PM
I wanted to bump this thread to remind everyone that the next meeting is tonight from 6-8 at the convention center. It seems as though Metrojacksonville has turned into a bitch and whine fest, but if you really care about what is happening now and in the future in jacksonville you will be there to try and do something, instead of whining about nothing getting done. I hope to see mant MJ's there.

That's a pretty broad statement to make about a group CG7.  Your statement makes the assumption that behind the screen names no one is doing or has been doing a doggone thing to make things better in Jacksonville.  Further you may have dismissed the fact that you just made your judgement on a privately owned forum that was created for one reason, which is to share information, ideas and history.  :)  That in and of itself shows serious action and interest in our community.

I will grant you it is difficult to know who is who on the forum which is why I post my comments under a screen name with my real name below it.  I really wish others would do the same, but that is just my opinion and I do understand that for some using their own name could be problematic.  I am not an originator of this online site but have walked my talk for decades now with money, time and effort.  So do invite folks to participate in the 2025 efforts and the best way to do that is not to open your invitation with an insult.

fieldafm

March 19, 2013, 09:46:09 PM
Sitting at 2025 tonight, it was evidently clear why our downtown sucks.  It's the same tired ideas regurgitated over and over. 

It's beyond time for a new generation of placemakers to step up. 

Ocklawaha

March 19, 2013, 10:13:47 PM
I wanted to bump this thread to remind everyone that the next meeting is tonight from 6-8 at the convention center. It seems as though Metrojacksonville has turned into a bitch and whine fest, but if you really care about what is happening now and in the future in jacksonville you will be there to try and do something, instead of whining about nothing getting done. I hope to see mant MJ's there.

Considering the input to 2025 from most of the posters of MJ, I dont doubt that you will.  Especially as Ennis was invited and joined the effort before it got underway in the public.

So, it will no doubt be nice to have you join the rest of us who have been there since the beginning.

Where were you Stephen? I didn't find you or Lake, but did have a nice chat with Mayor Brown, Bill Bishop, Mike and John Noone.

Ocklawaha

March 19, 2013, 10:17:31 PM
I will grant you it is difficult to know who is who on the forum which is why I post my comments under a screen name with my real name below it.  I really wish others would do the same, but that is just my opinion and I do understand that for some using their own name could be problematic.

Great suggestion Cheshire Cat, I have amended mine accordingly.

stephendare

March 19, 2013, 10:28:52 PM
Sitting at 2025 tonight, it was evidently clear why our downtown sucks.  It's the same tired ideas regurgitated over and over. 

It's beyond time for a new generation of placemakers to step up.

yes.  yes.  a thousand times over.

Tacachale

March 19, 2013, 10:36:53 PM
What went on tonight?

thelakelander

March 19, 2013, 11:27:26 PM
I wanted to bump this thread to remind everyone that the next meeting is tonight from 6-8 at the convention center. It seems as though Metrojacksonville has turned into a bitch and whine fest, but if you really care about what is happening now and in the future in jacksonville you will be there to try and do something, instead of whining about nothing getting done. I hope to see mant MJ's there.

Considering the input to 2025 from most of the posters of MJ, I dont doubt that you will.  Especially as Ennis was invited and joined the effort before it got underway in the public.

So, it will no doubt be nice to have you join the rest of us who have been there since the beginning.

Where were you Stephen? I didn't find you or Lake, but did have a nice chat with Mayor Brown, Bill Bishop, Mike and John Noone.

I participated in the Transportation and Downtown categories.  Then I had to leave early to go speak at the follow up JCCI Forward event across the street.
Sitting at 2025 tonight, it was evidently clear why our downtown sucks.  It's the same tired ideas regurgitated over and over. 

It's beyond time for a new generation of placemakers to step up. 

I expected the ideas and issues mentioned in previous studies to rise to the top in this one as well.  Over the last 40 years, we've studied Jacksonville to death. We've come up with everything from moving sidewalks to turning LaVilla into a municipal golf course. There's not much new that will come to light that hasn't been discussed except one thing that's been mentioned on this site in the past.  That's modify policy, remove some hands out of the cookie jar and allow free market creativity and innovation to take control.  People are repopulating pedestrian scale neighborhoods all across the country.  We need to streamline policy and put to death some old bad ideas to help naturally facilitate that movement. For example, a mobility fee and plan starts to incentive and level the playing field for infill development.  Having a council member lobby for expansion of sprawl by approving a moratorium, does the exact opposite.  Another example is the gas tax situation, which Jim Bailey recently wrote about on Jax Daily Record.  I used to be against it's renewal until a recent discussion with Councilman Gulliford.  Cutting it does nothing but allow us to maintain our roads and transit less than what we do today and allows St. Johns and Clay County residents to work and play in Jax at Jax taxpayer's full expense. At some point, we have to stop being cheap and start investing in ourselves....and that point needs to happen quick!

With that said, the key to the success of JAX 2025 will hinge on the implementation phase.  If it leads to modification of old efforts to allow organic change and a will of the community to implement change for the better, we'll be on the right track.  If it ends up sitting on the self, it will be just like the rest of dusty planning documents in the library's special collections section.

thelakelander

March 19, 2013, 11:35:50 PM
What went on tonight?

We basically took vision statements created from previous efforts and listed ideas to incrementally move towards the general goals expressed in the statements with methods of how to track their progress. So for example, if you wanted to increase TOD and infill development along existing and future transit corridors, you might modify policy to incentivize that style of development pattern.  To effectively measure if you're making progress, you could track the number of building permits for new TOD/infill on an annual basis. 

tufsu1

March 20, 2013, 09:06:43 AM
I wanted to bump this thread to remind everyone that the next meeting is tonight from 6-8 at the convention center. It seems as though Metrojacksonville has turned into a bitch and whine fest, but if you really care about what is happening now and in the future in jacksonville you will be there to try and do something, instead of whining about nothing getting done. I hope to see mant MJ's there.

Considering the input to 2025 from most of the posters of MJ, I dont doubt that you will.  Especially as Ennis was invited and joined the effort before it got underway in the public.

So, it will no doubt be nice to have you join the rest of us who have been there since the beginning.

Where were you Stephen? I didn't find you or Lake, but did have a nice chat with Mayor Brown, Bill Bishop, Mike and John Noone.

Lakelander was there....didn't see Stephen though...and Ock, you fail to mention the 3 words we shared :)

CG7

March 20, 2013, 09:41:14 AM
The mayor spent 10-15 minutes at our table during the downtown portion, and spoke mainly about his disire to bring some beanch of all the Universities to downtown. We discussed the Urban planning dept of JU, and he said he would like something along the lines of SCAD. We mentioned a few enhancement to what we already have downtown, and he seemed pretty interested in a couple ideas. I know many people here share my sincere hope we can make something happen besides just another plan.

Lucasjj

March 20, 2013, 09:52:30 AM
The mayor sat with us for a while when I was in the Arts and Entertainment section. We were talking about SCAD with him as well and the benefit of having a school anchored there to help with art programs.

I thought the event last night was well attended and provided a lot of different views from a very diverse crowd. Implementation is key but it is real uplifting to see so many people coming together to try and make this work.

Plus we got to hear Lakelander speak at the JCCI Forward event explaining the importance of downtown connectivity.

jcjohnpaint

March 20, 2013, 10:15:24 AM
Does the mayor know that UNF used to hold art classes at MOCA?  We stopped teaching there because we did not have the student interest.  They also had to pay for parking.  If the mayor wants to do something by bringing art DT, then why not start with what we already have:  UNF already working DT.  Again, a pie in the sky idea of bringing SCAD into town to save the day instead of tapping into resources that already exist.  Also bringing SCAD into town could harm already existing programs at JU, FSCJ, and UNF.  All these depts are young and still fragile.   Personally, I think this mayor is more of a dreamer than a researcher. 

tufsu1

March 20, 2013, 10:55:02 AM
I think the idea was something "like SCAD"...not SCAD per se....so yes, fledgling programs at JU and UNF would count

Lucasjj

March 20, 2013, 11:08:13 AM
The mayor was not looking for SCAD or any school from outside Jacksonville. He mentioned the Art Institute and the need for colleges already in Jacksonville to be more present downtown. The work with MOCA and UNF was brought up.

The activity last night was to list what Jacksonville needs in a certain area and how to measure it. Our group suggested that the surrounding colleges need to have more presence to understand what is currently taking place and if there is demand from the students. The colleges would be the best place to start and know what can be provided and what is realistic. The city can then be that bridge to help faciliate the next step. No college is going to move downtown tomorrow, but programs like MOCA and UNF need to be encouraged and helped along.

Tacachale

March 20, 2013, 11:12:51 AM
Does the mayor know that UNF used to hold art classes at MOCA?  We stopped teaching there because we did not have the student interest.  They also had to pay for parking.  If the mayor wants to do something by bringing art DT, then why not start with what we already have:  UNF already working DT.  Again, a pie in the sky idea of bringing SCAD into town to save the day instead of tapping into resources that already exist.  Also bringing SCAD into town could harm already existing programs at JU, FSCJ, and UNF.  All these depts are young and still fragile.   Personally, I think this mayor is more of a dreamer than a researcher. 

That's a good point about art classes at MOCA, making classes work there from the city's end (eg, by allowing free parking) would be a good place to start.

And while I agree that getting something like SCAD downtown isn't realistic, I don't think we should see it as a bad thing if it were to happen. Jacksonville has too few higher ed options, not too many.

jcjohnpaint

March 20, 2013, 12:12:44 PM
Personally, I think having a SCAD architecture or urban planning chapter here would be great. 
We have been in the works for a new building for the Visual Arts Program for some time, maybe this would be a good start.  I don't think anyone would mind teaching DT.  We desperately need space none the less. 

Overstreet

March 20, 2013, 01:05:46 PM
Personally, I think having a SCAD architecture or urban planning chapter here would be great. .......
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It would likely mean a Dick Blick store would move in. 
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I don't think SCAD would be interested.  Of course FCCJ, or whatever, has been downtown......and UNF has been downtown. But interest is more toward their suburbane campuses.

Ocklawaha

March 20, 2013, 01:06:47 PM
Lakelander was there....didn't see Stephen though...and Ock, you fail to mention the 3 words we shared :)

I couldn't, I still had that damn gag you wrapped around my mouth! ;D

BrooklynSouth

March 20, 2013, 01:08:38 PM
LOL! I just put a long post on another forum topic about moving UNF downtown! I had no idea the mayor was thinking about this. It is a stirring plan for me because putting student housing downtown near the classrooms would instantly bring hundreds or thousand of shoppers/pedestrians to the neighborhood. I've seen this at NYU and VCU.

urbaknight

March 20, 2013, 03:57:40 PM
Sitting at 2025 tonight, it was evidently clear why our downtown sucks.  It's the same tired ideas regurgitated over and over. 

It's beyond time for a new generation of placemakers to step up.


If the same ideas continue to be discussed, maybe they'll finally be implemented.

kreger

March 20, 2013, 05:59:48 PM
The mayor is right, we need any and all kinds of colleges, universities, and schools downtown. SCAD wouldn't set foot in a city without an HRO in place that protected everybody. If you want something different you have to do something different. Go ahead Alvin, take us to the next level...put an end to bigotry in JAX.

Noone

March 23, 2013, 07:18:00 AM
Sitting at 2025 tonight, it was evidently clear why our downtown sucks.  It's the same tired ideas regurgitated over and over. 

It's beyond time for a new generation of placemakers to step up. 

The 3/19/13 JCCI Vision 2025 meeting had me singing verse two of "Ernie, Minnie, Miny, Mo. Pick a table as you go. If they holler let them go. It's nothing but the same old show."

The meeting for me had me thinking that this was a parents teachers conference and I left my kids at home because we are going to be transferring. I arrived just before the start and saw Ben on numerous occasions and never said one word to him. I just felt a tension that it was better to just participate and let's see what is going to happen. Ben, It's not a slam on you. Still like the tie.

I participated in a couple of previous JCCI studies. One was "Our Money, Our City, Financing Jacksonville's Future" I recall that one and Cuba, Keane, Deal, Cohee, and a packed house and look where we are today. I was expecting an extra table and that would be the RICO table.

Anyway, It was the same thing that we did the last time. You had a feeling that the fix was in when you see the same people that participated in the last session sitting at the same tables again for this session. What are we trying to measure again? So I participated in the economy and at my table there was a parent that brought his daughter and made that known during around the table introductions. I was thinking that was very cool.
The topic around the table was about Downtown and there was someone that would just bring the group back to the entire city of Jacksonville.

The second round had me looking at the Downtown table line and when I saw people that did Downtown last time sitting at the Downtown again I was thinking OK why not. This line was the longest in the entire room and being the last meeting I sat my butt back Down at the Downtown table and what are we measuring again. This table had a father and son which was disclosed during table introductions. Again, very cool. I asked the young man do you live Downtown. No, was the response back.

The discussions at both tables had people that have been here for years and you just sit there and in this super brief window we just shake our heads. One person said that their councilman Gaffney has not been to one meeting. My councilman Don Redman representing Downtown has not been to one meeting. Scott, correct me if
I'm wrong on this. But the next day he is right there for the photo op with the Mayor. What are we measuring again?

Speaking of Mayor Brown he was there again. Stayed for the entire process and at the end it was nice to just say hello to him again. I have to give the man props.

So what are we measuring? I'd say measure the non profits that will be getting in line and sticking there hands out when this New DIA gets cranked up in the months ahead.

So who wants to be a 501-C

C- Corporation, Corruption, Council, Conspiracy, Cash, Coercion, Capitalism, Confidence, Courage, Creativity, City, Creek, Country,

I am Downtown and why you aren't

A new Authority.
Embrace It
Or
It will Embrace us

Cheshire Cat

April 15, 2013, 11:55:33 AM
Here is an interesting perspective from Karen Mathis on this subject

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Taking Jacksonville to next level takes more than compiling another list

By Karen Brune Mathis Mon, Apr 15, 2013 @ 1:56 am

On the surface, the 10 key areas shaping up as community priorities in the JAX2025 visioning effort appear to be nearly identical to those in the 1992 Jacksonville Insight report.

A vibrant arts and entertainment scene, check.

Striving for educational excellence, check.

Improving transportation, health care, government, the economy, the environment, neighborhoods and downtown, check, check, check, etc.

Participants in JAX2025, which will be completed and unveiled in May, also are calling for Jacksonville to be “renowned as a diverse and inclusive community” and be a “place where people matter.” Those mirror the 1992 call for “excellent community relations.”

That begs the question: What’s different this time?

While the response could be “not much,” the real response will be how JAX2025 is put into action. If good intentions fail or fade, Jacksonville probably could expect another visioning project in another 20 years and the same 10 priorities.

JAX2025 is the initiative led by Jacksonville Community Council Inc. to guide the community through the exercise of determining Jacksonville’s future and taking action to reach the goals.

Jacksonville Insight in 1992 was the community process initiated by Mayor Ed Austin that resulted in 10 priorities for the city.

With JAX2025 and Insight as backdrops, I wrote a column in November asking readers what is needed to take Jacksonville to the next level, a place Mayor Alvin Brown often says he yearns to reach.

Many of the responses included specific actions and improvements, but there also were suggestions that reaching the next level requires more than a list.

There was a reference to “the lack of civic pride, ingenuity and desire for excellence in our city.”

One writer, who was echoed by others, insisted City Council’s “denial of equal rights for gays and lesbians … was a step back. … Any ‘next level’ that fails to correct Jacksonville’s failure in that area will prove empty in the eyes of history.”

Another wrote: “Think just how great we could be if we focus our energies, engage the citizenry and hold our leaders accountable.”

One offered that one of Jacksonville’s greatest challenges has been branding. “I believe this is, and has been, the dilemma that our leaders and community has always faced — who are we and what do we want to be when we grow up?”

Another suggested a different list: “Jacksonville can redefine itself by getting out of debt so it can pay for some of the things mentioned. … Instead of ticking off ways to redefine, how about kicking in ways for the city to pay off debt.”

One summarized what he considered the biggest barrier to reaching the “next level,” also perhaps a caution for JAX2025.

“Jacksonville’s greatest challenge … is a mindset transformation,” he wrote.

“Change is difficult and changing a mindset is terribly arduous. But without this being done, all of the modernization we do will eventually fall victim to it.”

About the author: Karen Brune Mathis is managing editor of the Financial News & Daily Record and can be reached at kmathis@baileypub.com. The website is www.jaxdailyrecord.com

GoldenEst82

April 15, 2013, 12:29:58 PM
I have been interested to see how the writing and refinement of "statements" will translate into action.
I go to those meetings hoping to be present when the rubber meets the road... and I am still waiting to hear in those meetings, HOW they plan to make these vision statements a reality.

I have sat with a different set of people (in the same sections) each time, and everything I hear across the demographics, is pretty much the same.
People living in our suburban sections want downtown to flourish- because it will benefit them in the long term. People in/around downtown want to be connected to the suburbs, because (especially now) that is where "everything" is; and that it allows people to live in the "urban" manner, without a car being a necessity.

The next meeting is coming up, and if May is when the meetings are supposed to end- perhaps I will get some clarity about the What and How.

Cheshire Cat

April 15, 2013, 12:44:19 PM
I have been interested to see how the writing and refinement of "statements" will translate into action.
I go to those meetings hoping to be present when the rubber meets the road... and I am still waiting to hear in those meetings, HOW they plan to make these vision statements a reality.

I have sat with a different set of people (in the same sections) each time, and everything I hear across the demographics, is pretty much the same.
People living in our suburban sections want downtown to flourish- because it will benefit them in the long term. People in/around downtown want to be connected to the suburbs, because (especially now) that is where "everything" is; and that it allows people to live in the "urban" manner, without a car being a necessity.

The next meeting is coming up, and if May is when the meetings are supposed to end- perhaps I will get some clarity about the What and How.

As is the case with so much of the excellent work done by JCCI, once the information is made public and handed over to City Hall, the rubber rarely meets the road.  I have participated in their studies in the past, seen folks take the personal time and commit it to an involvement in a such a study and later be disappointed by the fact that so much well meant effort went into something that is later ignored. This is in no way the fault of JCCI in my opinion and should never deter their continued efforts.  It is rather the result of a combination of arrogance and non-committal on the part of our City's elected officials.  Perhaps Ben will chime in on this thread and share with readers what will be done this time around that will make the projections for 2025 into a workable plan. 

Ben Warner

April 15, 2013, 04:34:34 PM
I'm enjoying this discussion of implementation of JAX2025. I completely agree that this is the most important factor. That's why we began by reviewing 230 existing reports, plans, and visions, and talking to people who've been involved in this a long time. It's the action component that is the most important.

(I will point out, parenthetically, that JCCI has a track record of implementation that I'm pretty proud of. We've had the process externally evaluated by a team from Rutgers and the Pew Partnership for Civic Change who spent three years evaluating our effectiveness -- after which they named our work a Solution for America -- and followed up by doubling down on investing in implementation. Because our implementation philosophy works quietly behind the scenes to lift others up, believing as we do that you can either get something done or take credit but it's really hard to do both, we've been quiet on touting accomplishments. You can look at our implementation results at www.jcci.org and see the outcomes of all our work and what's still in progress.)

Back to JAX2025. We know that from past experience and our work around the world that community visioning efforts that fail generally do so when those involved and passionate about change hand implementation off to a third party, usually government, and then wait for action to happen. Sometimes the appeal of building a signature project sucks all the rest of the energy out of the plan, and then at the end there's an edifice but no realized vision. Sometimes the vision is built around expectations of increased funding for a project, and over time the funding goes down and the vision remains unrealized.

In our vernacular, we call this the danger of focusing solely on the "they shoulds." They should pass a law. They should build something. They should make things better. From what we've seen in successful communities, real community-driven change requires community-engaged action.

Here's a quick example. The Symphony is a community cultural resource that has struggled financially over the past several years. We wish them the best of luck in remaining strong. If we have a vision of a strong symphony, one way to help them out is to double their Public Service Grant funding. To do that, without cutting anything from anyone else, we'd need (roughly) to add $1 to the property taxes of every household in Duval County. Or, if we as a community want to support them, one out of every 200 people could go see a concert who didn't last year. Ultimately, engaging the community to build the audience is more sustainable, and better fits why we want to have a symphony in Jacksonville.

So the implementation of JAX2025 has three parts: First, advocacy (still need the "theys" to be involved, but working in conjunction with the community. Second, individual and collective action (you'll hear this described on April 27 as the "you can" and "I will" steps.) We'll be connecting, encouraging, and facilitating all kinds of community-level activity -- when we did this in San Antonio, these were supplemented and promoted with "Find Your Passion" events to create movement and action. And third, communication -- sharing what's happening, highlighting successes, holding ourselves accountable where action isn't happening, and more.

The goal is to focus and align multiple efforts and existing community energies, as well as removing barriers and adding new hands to the work, to move Jacksonville forward. Government, businesses, nonprofits, faith community, and more are partners in a larger work owned and managed at the community level. That's what's different -- this isn't a call for a new bond issue to build the "one more missing piece" somewhere. It's pulling all the pieces together and infusing new life in what we all know needs to happen to move us forward, with new and surprising partners to make it happen. There's no giant secret behind successful community change -- simply put, when we have a shared vision of where we want to go, and work together to make it happen, that's when the wheels really get moving. We've seen it time and time again. As long as this remains the community's vision (and not tied to a single individual or group), it's incredibly and demonstrably powerful.

Is that helpful? How can I answer any other questions you might have?

Cheshire Cat

April 15, 2013, 04:38:55 PM
Thanks so much for giving us all more insight into what is happening with the 2025 effort Ben. 

Ben Warner

April 15, 2013, 04:59:57 PM
Thank you for participating (and asking questions!) Also, for those who are wondering, JAX2025 is not a hidden ploy by the United Nations to eliminate personal property rights, establish a New World Order, or force veganism on an unsuspecting populace. No drones or black helicopters involved. (Which for some reason was the question I've been answering most often recently -- nice to have questions that aren't just silly.)

Cheshire Cat

April 15, 2013, 05:11:16 PM
Thank you for participating (and asking questions!) Also, for those who are wondering, JAX2025 is not a hidden ploy by the United Nations to eliminate personal property rights, establish a New World Order, or force veganism on an unsuspecting populace. No drones or black helicopters involved. (Which for some reason was the question I've been answering most often recently -- nice to have questions that aren't just silly.)
Oh sure Ben, but how can we be sure you are being truthful about this. lmbo :)
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