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A Walk Down Herschel Street

The commercial strip along Herschel developed as a result of the streetcar line that was extended through the corridor to provide service to Ortega in 1908. Today, this strip of Herschel is known for its mix of restaurants, offices, galleries and retail boutiques.

Published September 24, 2009 in Neighborhoods      Digg Digg   Share this article on Facebook Share on Facebook   twitterTweet this!   Open printer friendly version of this article Print Article

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Walkability Ratings According to Walkscore.com

1. 88 - Downtown
2. 80 - San Marco
3. 71 - Fairfax
4. 71 - Riverside
5. 70 - Southside (Downtown Southbank)

http://www.walkscore.com/rankings/Jacksonville






Infill development at Herschel and San Juan







Museum of Southern History


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The Museum of Southern History was established to maintain and perpetuate an educational facility for those who are interested in the history of the United States, its early problems and difficulties in becoming the Nation it is today.  The museum is dedicated to historical accuracy in presenting the lifestyle and culture of the Antebellum South, a unique civilization, misunderstood by many, belittled and misrepresented by some, but deeply revered by the grateful descendants of the brave men and women whose sacrifices and dedication to a cause that created a chapter in our nation’s history that is unmatched. Special attention is given to the education of young people as groups of school children are given basic education in our nation’s history in the hope that they will better understand and perhaps develop an interest in learning more about their history.
http://www.museumsouthernhistory.com/


Fire Station #14 was completed in 1933.  The Art Deco style structure was designed by Roy Benjamin.







The width of Herschel Street serves as a reminder of its days as a streetcar thoroughfare.

















This flower shop was originally a Skinner's Dairy Milk House.  The family-run dairy operated from the 1950s to the mid-1990s.

Created by the architectural firm of Hardwick & Lee, the Skinner's Milk Houses were thoughtfully designed and visually interesting structures that became an iconic presence throughout the Jacksonville area. Under their pitched "butterfly" roofs, each identical store was painted orange, grey, and white, incorporated a drive-through that could be approached from both sides, and used aluminum sliding glass doors which were a novelty at the time. The overhanging roof design also provided shelter for drive-through customers during north Florida's frequent rainstorms.



Big Fishweir Creek separates the neighborhood of Fairfax from Avondale.

















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» 27 Comments

billy

September 24, 2009, 06:42:14 AM

Goalpost still open?
Also, wasn't there a redevelopment proposal along Fishweir Creek?

thelakelander

September 24, 2009, 06:58:31 AM



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A 21 story, 216 unit condominium tower along with 20,000 square feet of retail. - Dead

http://www.metrojacksonville.com/article/2008-oct-results-of-the-boom-dead-projects

fsu813

September 24, 2009, 07:02:37 AM

i don't think anyone uses the name "Fairfax" anymore.

I've heard Avondale, Westside, Roosevelt, & Fishwier......but not Fairfax. interesting.

riverside_mail

September 24, 2009, 07:05:03 AM

Wasn't that supposed to replace the Commander Apts?

TREE4309

September 24, 2009, 09:02:01 AM

Yes, Goal Post is still open.  Mmmmm, steak in a sack.

TREE4309

September 24, 2009, 09:03:14 AM

Also, I consider the Fairfax area Avondale, but that's probably inaccurate.

thelakelander

September 24, 2009, 09:04:55 AM

Wasn't that supposed to replace the Commander Apts?

Yes, the Commander Apts and the two story retail/office complex (St. Johns Village) on Fishweir Creek.  As a part of the plan, a roundabout was also proposed for the intersection of St. Johns Avenue and Herschel just north of the creek.

thelakelander

September 24, 2009, 09:06:39 AM

Also, I consider the Fairfax area Avondale, but that's probably inaccurate.

Its officially outside of the historic district.  We only used the name "Fairfax" because that is still what it is officially identified by.  Nevertheless, I agree that a name change may be in order.

Captain Zissou

September 24, 2009, 09:59:26 AM

I'm pretty mad that the Commander Apartment building still stands. That proposal was awesome.  These pictures were taken at a rare high tide.  Usually fishweir is shallow enough for even non-wading birds to be out in the middle.  Any chance we'll see pictures of the rest of the length of Herschel?? It's an awesome street and goes through some pretty diverse areas until it runs into Mossfire Grill in 5 points.

JeffreyS

September 24, 2009, 10:04:45 AM

Is the dead project the marina where herschel becomes lake shore?  The sign is still on the street.

Ocklawaha

September 24, 2009, 10:46:26 AM

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The width of Herschel Street serves as a reminder of its days as a streetcar thoroughfare.

I'm not sure Lake, that East of Herschel "green space" is shouting JACKSONVILLE TRACTION, as you know from our old photo searches, JTCO kept off the streets anywhere it was possible. btw, That right of way is not unlike the one that came into Edgewood Village down the west side of the railroad.

Wonder if we could find a map of the era. USGS 15 Min series between 1910-1930, they show streetcar lines with a cross hatch down the center of the roads.
 

OCKLAWAHA

thelakelander

September 24, 2009, 10:50:34 AM

I guess I was too literal.  I meant the width of the public ROW.  That would include the street, sidewalks, diagonal parking and the linear greenspace.

Ocklawaha

September 24, 2009, 10:55:56 AM

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i don't think anyone uses the name "Fairfax" anymore.

I've heard Avondale, Westside, Roosevelt, & Fishwier......but not Fairfax. interesting.

For about 100 years, the streetcar and bus destination curtains had "Fairfax" on them, including the old 70 Naval Air, that served Ortega. A lot newbie reporters out there talk about driving trains, or in the trains cockpit... Its a case of not hanging on to our heritage. Nobody "drives" a train (in the USA) and a cockpit is on an airplane. Locomotives, streetcars, LRT, any rail vehicle uses the word "Cab". Fairfax was a streetcar boom "town" and if you follow St. Johns around that sweeping curve, you start smelling STREETCAR. Also a St. Johns and Roosevelt is one of the classic Jacksonville Traction red brick cube type substation. But it looks like tracks NEVER went down St. Johns... Weird.

Let's keep it FAIRFAX.


OCKLAWAHA

Ocklawaha

September 24, 2009, 11:01:48 AM

I guess I was too literal.  I meant the width of the public ROW.  That would include the street, sidewalks, diagonal parking and the linear greenspace.



Not trying to be nit picky but we need to show the city that these beautiful beasts don't need streets, in fact they play better when left alone. This photo is one of many we have found that show Jacksonville Traction on it's own right-of-way. This one is Kings Avenue. Note it's in the grass and still has double track and landscaping.

OCKLAWAHA

Captain Zissou

September 24, 2009, 11:57:58 AM

JeffreyS, the dead project is the tall building to the left of the Loop and Espeto.  That building was to be torn down, as well as the Loop shopping center for a new tower and complex.  The development you are speaking of is "The River Homes at Ortega Landing", which has been scaled back significantly, but partially completed.

alohameisha

September 24, 2009, 03:13:49 PM



you forgot Pastiche they are next to the fire station. Yum!

www.mypastiche.com/

grimss

September 24, 2009, 08:55:40 PM

As to the (now dead) Commander project, most neighbors were in favor of redevelopment of the site, but the scale/density of what was initially proposed by Balanky was rejected pretty quickly. Although he and the neighbors eventually reached a compromise of sorts, market conditions killed the project.  The Fairfax Manor folks (in whose backyard the Herschel corridor lies) are an active bunch who stand up for the integrity of their neighborhood. I'm happy to learn the history of the area, and glad to know there's a group trying to preserve its character.

DavidWilliams

September 24, 2009, 09:17:09 PM

Is the Commander still occupied?

GideonGlib

September 25, 2009, 11:02:31 AM

I have always known and heard the residents of the area call area Fairfax and  the neighborhood on the point  bordered by Fishweir Creek, The Ortega River, and Herschel/St.Johns avenue to be Fairfax Manor, and I believe there are signs that indicate that on the entrance to the neighborhood.

I would like to concur Goal Post is a great little sandwich shop, their "veggie Rider" is an awesome lunch.

Lunican

September 25, 2009, 11:22:47 AM

Was McGirts Creek renamed the "Ortega River" because it sounds more prestigious?

stephendare

September 25, 2009, 11:26:25 AM

less Piratey.

McGirts was an um.......private contractor.

Wacca Pilatka

September 25, 2009, 11:39:20 AM

less Piratey.

McGirts was an um.......private contractor.

Superb.

nicktooch

October 01, 2009, 08:50:57 PM

we forgot herschel animal clinic... and by clinic i mean free shots with dirty needles and cheap infections with every spay/neuter.  A close friend of mine is a vet tech at an ER on the sside and sees more sick animals whose owners answer the question "who is your usual vet?" with "uh idk i just stand in line at herschel."  and that's all he needs to know to gauge the severity of the animal's med history lol

DavidWilliams

October 01, 2009, 09:07:56 PM

We have taken a few pets there. Never had a bad experience. Other than the wait. I will spend a little more to go to Timuquana and not have to stand in line. Cox and Walker (dealt with them about 10 years or so) seem to be good vets. 

jaxlore

October 02, 2009, 10:22:50 AM

people will go back and forth about herschel all day long. they do a service at a very low price for people that would just let there animals stay sick if it wasn't for them. I've never had a problem with several cats i have brought there with no problems.

JaxBorn1962

October 10, 2009, 06:16:16 PM

Yes, Goal Post is still open.  Mmmmm, steak in a sack.
Cheese and Bacon Grilled sandwich with large fries and a sprite.

JaxBorn1962

October 10, 2009, 06:22:25 PM

Is the Commander still occupied?
Yes
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