Tale of the Tape:
Albany Population 2007: 94,172 (City); 853,358 (Metro) - (incorporated in 1686)
Jacksonville Pop. 2007: 805,605 (City); 1,300,823 (Metro) - (incorporated in 1832)
City population 1950: Jacksonville (204,517); Albany (132,995)
Metropolitan Area Growth rate (2000-2007)
Albany: +3.33%
Jacksonville: +15.86%
Urban Area Population (2000 census)
Albany: 558,947 (ranked 62 nationwide)
Jacksonville: 882,295 (ranked 43 nationwide)
Urban Area Population Density (2000 census)
Albany: 1,966.4
Jacksonville: 2,149.2
City Population Growth from 2000 to 2007
Albany: -163
Jacksonville: +69,988
Convention Center Exhibition Space:
Albany: Empire State Plaza Convention Center - N/A
Jacksonville: Prime F. Osborn III Convention Center (1986) - 78,500 square feet
The community has plans for a new convention facility. The proposed Albany Convention Center will include 244,000 square feet of space, a 400-room Sheraton hotel and a 1,100 space parking garage. Its estimated to cost $397 million. It will replace existing surface parking lots adjacent to the Times Union Center.
Tallest Building:
Albany: Erastus Corning Tower - 589 feet
Jacksonville: Bank of America Tower - 617 feet
Downtown-Based Fortune 500 companies:
Albany: zero (0)
Jacksonville: CSX (261), Fidelity National Financial (435), Fidelity National Information Services (481)
Urban infill obstacles:
Albany: Interstates 787 severs downtown from the Hudson River.
Jacksonville: State & Union Streets cut off Downtown Jacksonville from Springfield.
Downtown Nightlife:
Albany: Lark Street, an area two blocks east of the State Capitol that is reminiscent of Manhattan's brownstone neighborhoods.
Jacksonville: East Bay Street, located between Main Street and Liberty Street. This four block stretch is home to four bars and clubs.
Common Downtown Albatross:
Under utilized urban waterfronts
Who's Downtown is more walkable?
Albany: 94 out of 100, according to walkscore.com
Jacksonville: 88 out of 100, according to walkscore.com
Downtown Albany Photo Tour
The Governor Nelson A. Rockefeller Empire State Plaza (commonly known as simply the Empire State Plaza or The South Mall) is a large complex of several state-owned buildings downtown, including The Egg, Corning Tower, Swan Street Office Building, and Cultural Education Center (home of the New York State Museum). Built throughout the 1970s, Empire State Plaza is a powerful example of American late Modern architecture.
Completed in 1928, the 34 story Alfred E. Smith Building is Albany's second tallest structure.
The New York State Capitol, completed in 1899 at a cost of $25 million (roughly half a billion current dollars), was the most expensive government building of its time. The Capitol was inspired by the Hôtel de Ville (City Hall) in Paris, France. It is one of only ten capitol buildings in the United States that does not have a dome.
Built in 1883, the Albany City Hall is known for its pyramidal-roofed clock tower, which contains the nation's first municipal carillon. The largest of the instrument's 60 bells weighs 11,200 pounds, and the carillon is still played regularly.
Albany's geographic situation as a "Crossroads City" (roughly equidistant between New York, Montreal, Buffalo and Boston) makes it a convenient stop for nationally touring artists and acts. The Palace Theatre and The Egg provide mid-sized forums for music, theater and spoken word performances. The Times Union Center, previously the Knickerbocker Arena ("The Knick") or more recently The Pepsi Arena ("The Pepsi"), serves as the city's largest musical venue for nationally and internationally prominent bands, as well as trade shows, sporting events and other large-scale community gatherings. The New York State Museum is a major cultural draw in Albany, focusing on fine arts, natural history, and New York's economic, political and social histories.
Unique Albany
Albany is the fourth oldest city behind Santa Fe, St. Augustine, and Jamestown, Virginia.
Albany's north-south streets are named after birds (ex. lark, dove, hawk, eagle, partridge, swan, etc.)
Erastus Corning II served as mayor of Albany from 1942 until 1983, the longest single mayoral term of any major city in the United States.
Lark Street
Pearl Street, Broadway and Lark Street serve as the most active entertainment areas in the city, with Lark as perhaps the most lively and culturally interesting street in the city. Technically the westernmost border of the Center Square neighborhood and located one block east of Washington Park, Lark Street is home to independent shops, a coffeehouse, restaurants, art galleries, antique shops, bars, and a tattoo parlor.
Washington Park was officially organized in 1809. The current layout was designed by Frederick Law Olmsted in 1868.
Center Square
Center Square is a neighborhood that is often compared by locals to New York City's SoHo or Greenwich Village. Center Square contains many buildings of architectural significance. The neighborhood is locally famous for its nightlife, entertainment, culture, and dining. Center Square includes the area bounded by Lark Street on the west, Spring Street on the north, South Swan Street on the east and Jay Street on the south, plus the upper portion of Lancaster Street between Lark Street and Willett Street.
EP
October 21, 2008, 07:51:19 AMI thought Jacksonville had a problem with the Hart bridge cutting off areas like Metropolitan Park from the Sports District. Albany has its whole waterfront area occupied by freeway spaghetti. Also, that freeway that comes across the river slams right into the parking garage for the capital building. I bet that city was awesome before those freeways ruined it. On the other side, those roads present a huge opportunity for the city, as they sit on acres of prime land that is held in trust by governmental entities.
Bike Jax
October 21, 2008, 10:58:13 AMThe one thing I have noticed about all these city comparisons is that all the other cities managed to somehow throughout the decades to not destroy their downtown for ground level parking lots. They all also still have residential in beautiful old homes and buildings within the downtown district. What's up with that? Don't these other cities understand how much more value a parking lot brings to a downtown than some old building.
I've also noticed since the start of these comparisons, that the only cities that seem to be showing any growth are those that have built some type of rail system, whether is be light rail, commuter rail, street car or a trolly system. Just my observations.
thelakelander
October 21, 2008, 11:09:48 AMThose are pretty accurate observations. Buffalo is the only struggling downtown I've recently visited that currently has rail. However, Buffalo has some serious economic issues that outweigh the positives of rail transit. Its also clear to see the importance of saving enough building fabric to the point of where the downtown core is well integrated with nearby urban neighborhoods. this integration turns small isolated districts into one large vibrant diversified urban core. This makes it a lot easier to bike, walk or use mass transit between core neighborhoods.
On the other hand, while many of these cities have done of decent job of keeping surface parking from taking over, most have done a horrible job with their waterfronts. Jacksonville has not done the best, but our riverwalks are superior to having the urban riverfront blocked from the downtown core by expressways.
ProjectMaximus
October 21, 2008, 07:38:45 PMWow, those building designs look pretty awesome. What great pictures. Never been to Albany but my impression now is pretty positive.
Lake, do you have a job that sends you all over the place or do you take these trips for your own pleasure and exclusively for the site? PM if you feel it more appropriate. I think you're lucky to be able to go to all these places, but you certainly do a terrific job with it.
heights unknown
October 21, 2008, 09:00:52 PMNice looking City. It's a shame that it has suffered a serious decline in urban population and urban success over the past five decades (as has many American major cities).
It's downtown though still seems to be intact and busy/bustling (from the looks of the pics). Albany looks like a city of 200,000 rather than 95,000 (kind of like Jax but flip flop; Jax looks like a city of 150,000 rather than 850,000).
Great pics and still looks to be, from the pics, a great solid small city.
Heights Unknown
thelakelander
October 21, 2008, 09:46:11 PMProject Maximus,
I take these trips for pleasure and to gain better understanding of the results of good and poor urban planning. Looking at things online are great, but the impact is greater when you check out various urban areas in person. Although this site is Jacksonville specific, its important to see what our peer cities are doing. Since I have a pretty large database of images from various trips, I figured I'd show a few cities from time to time.
Ocklawaha
October 22, 2008, 12:29:42 AMWhere's the depot? The Transit? The Transit features? Albany is a railroad crossroads!
Here is the new depot, I've seen inside shots too and it is stunning... and all we got was an Am-shack.
For the record, Albany trashed it's streetcars - 2 systems in 1946, 10 years after Jacksonville did. They had company including the last Florida system, Tampa, and the famous Oklahoma City network, which covered not only the city but central Oklahoma. When OKC converted to "modern express buses" ridership dropped by over 90% and has NEVER recovered. Hershey was also a famous system that died that year, they also had extensive operations owned by the Hershey Company in Havana Cuba (it still runs under state control).
Albany New York - Gee now I feel better!
Streetcar Abandonment for 1946
Albany New York
Hershey Pennsylvania
Kitchener-Waterloo Ontario
Lévis Québec
New Albany Indiana
New York (Manhattan) New York
Oklahoma City Oklahoma
Peoria Illinois
Schenectady New York
Stoneham Massachusetts
Tampa Florida
In California where I was living, the Los Angeles Railway took a car and painted a face on the front of it. The twin windshields formed giant eyes, the oversize cyclops headlight - the nose, a hollywood artist painted a sad frowning mouth, with tears running down the cheeks. On the side was painted in bright letters... the phrase: "Good Bye Old Friends".
OCKLAWAHA
paintman
December 11, 2008, 06:12:41 PMAbout 5 years ago Albany added an elaborate pedestrian walkway over the interstate to reconnect with the river. They also built a large amphitheater , visitor center and floating boat basin. They have free concerts that often bring more than 5000 people to the waterfront on summer nights. The freeway overpasses have huge parking lots underneath them and are used as rain venues.
Jason
December 12, 2008, 03:59:45 PMNow that you mention it, you can see the pedestrian overpass and riverfront park in the image above.