Author Topic: 1534 Oak Street - Appropriate for the Neighborhood?  (Read 73980 times)

tufsu1

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Re: 1534 Oak Street - Appropriate for the Neighborhood?
« Reply #135 on: September 25, 2010, 08:42:41 AM »
I have one simple question.............everyone is pushing bicycles ...........where are the bicycles going to be parked at?

um...bike racks

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Re: 1534 Oak Street - Appropriate for the Neighborhood?
« Reply #136 on: September 25, 2010, 10:31:14 AM »
Nope, we'll just chain them to the railing at Mossfire like we do now.   ;D
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Re: 1534 Oak Street - Appropriate for the Neighborhood?
« Reply #137 on: September 25, 2010, 10:39:16 AM »
The piece of cake design seems to lack visual stimuli.
Could the ground floor at minimum recede below the cantilevered upper tiers?

this would only partially heal the assault on my sensibilities.

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Re: 1534 Oak Street - Appropriate for the Neighborhood?
« Reply #138 on: September 25, 2010, 11:57:10 AM »
I have one simple question.............everyone is pushing bicycles ...........where are the bicycles going to be parked at?

um...bike racks
I see nothing regarding bike racks in the proposed site plan layout?

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Re: 1534 Oak Street - Appropriate for the Neighborhood?
« Reply #139 on: September 25, 2010, 02:06:30 PM »
The piece of cake design seems to lack visual stimuli.
Could the ground floor at minimum recede below the cantilevered upper tiers?

this would only partially heal the assault on my sensibilities.

While the current model is only a conceptual beginning, it is my understanding that on the Margaret Street side the first floor will be recessed so that there will be "sidewalk" dining and a direct connection to the actual sidewalk.  The other floor will be cantilevered over this section of the first.
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Re: 1534 Oak Street - Appropriate for the Neighborhood?
« Reply #140 on: September 25, 2010, 05:32:54 PM »
I can't see what is stopping them from putting the kitchen area back on the wall that abuts mossfire.  ???

Actually, that is where the kitchen is, not on Oak Street.  The area on Oak is a concrete wall with the dining room on the other side.

Also, with regard to bike racks, they are required to provide them.  Not sure where they are going.

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Re: 1534 Oak Street - Appropriate for the Neighborhood?
« Reply #141 on: September 26, 2010, 09:47:19 AM »
Does the building code now require bike racks?  Great if true, but then there are a lot of new buildings that are not in compliance.
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Re: 1534 Oak Street - Appropriate for the Neighborhood?
« Reply #142 on: September 29, 2010, 07:57:26 AM »
I can't see what is stopping them from putting the kitchen area back on the wall that abuts mossfire.  ???

Actually, that is where the kitchen is, not on Oak Street.  The area on Oak is a concrete wall with the dining room on the other side.

Also, with regard to bike racks, they are required to provide them.  Not sure where they are going.

Well then that confirms how easy it would be to use a glass wall rather than concrete on the Oak street facade. Very shortsighted of them to build a 3-story high cement wall when there is no design need for it.


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Re: 1534 Oak Street - Appropriate for the Neighborhood?
« Reply #143 on: September 29, 2010, 08:08:14 AM »
Well then that confirms how easy it would be to use a glass wall rather than concrete on the Oak street facade. Very shortsighted of them to build a 3-story high cement wall when there is no design need for it.

No joke.  I've never been to a restaurant and requested to be sat next to a concrete wall.  ???

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Re: 1534 Oak Street - Appropriate for the Neighborhood?
« Reply #144 on: September 29, 2010, 08:22:29 AM »
Well then that confirms how easy it would be to use a glass wall rather than concrete on the Oak street facade. Very shortsighted of them to build a 3-story high cement wall when there is no design need for it.

No joke.  I've never been to a restaurant and requested to be sat next to a concrete wall.  ???

c'mon. you guys have no clue what the designer intends to do with the inside of that space.

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Re: 1534 Oak Street - Appropriate for the Neighborhood?
« Reply #145 on: September 29, 2010, 08:24:09 AM »
Well then that confirms how easy it would be to use a glass wall rather than concrete on the Oak street facade. Very shortsighted of them to build a 3-story high cement wall when there is no design need for it.

No joke.  I've never been to a restaurant and requested to be sat next to a concrete wall.  ???

c'mon. you guys have no clue what the designer intends to do with the inside of that space.

Nor do I care. My issue is that a 3-story concrete wall is inappropriate for Oak Street...


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Re: 1534 Oak Street - Appropriate for the Neighborhood?
« Reply #146 on: September 29, 2010, 08:38:38 AM »
 
[/quote]Nor do I care. My issue is that a 3-story concrete wall is inappropriate for Oak Street...[/quote]

sounds like it's going to be quite appropriate. regardless of what you think. to me it's a good thing.

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Re: 1534 Oak Street - Appropriate for the Neighborhood?
« Reply #147 on: September 29, 2010, 09:33:10 AM »
The bike racks are on Oak street in back of the parking spaces.  You can pretty easily see them in the site plan.

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Re: 1534 Oak Street - Appropriate for the Neighborhood?
« Reply #148 on: September 29, 2010, 10:34:13 AM »
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sounds like it's going to be quite appropriate. regardless of what you think. to me it's a good thing.

Sorry, but a 3-story cement wall is inappropriate in that location, as it will result in a dead street.

And since RAP is contesting the design approval, all I can say is good luck with that wall (that won't be built).


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Re: 1534 Oak Street - Appropriate for the Neighborhood?
« Reply #149 on: September 29, 2010, 12:55:07 PM »
unless there are standards in the overlay, there isn't much RAP (or anyone else) can say about the physical look of the building.