Author Topic: Friendship Fountain Restoration Project To Break Ground  (Read 40599 times)

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Re: Friendship Fountain Restoration Project To Break Ground
« Reply #30 on: August 30, 2010, 03:04:33 PM »
Yep, that water is never going to be anything but brown.  I grew up near the headwaters of the St. Johns and I have been there.  It's swampwater, and will always be.  The decaying plant matter is what colors it brown like that.

Actually, Saint Johns River system is actually an estuary system of different water. We do have saltwater flowing in from the Atlantic on the floor of the river while the fresh water are flowing out. Obviously, the salt water doesn't come WAY deep into the river, but it is pretty darn close since our beloved city is located smack in the delta area of Saint Johns river. There are chemical compositions occurring in the river that is causing it to be brownish.

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Re: Friendship Fountain Restoration Project To Break Ground
« Reply #31 on: August 30, 2010, 03:20:51 PM »
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A blackwater river is a river with a deep, slow-moving channel that flows through forested swamps and wetlands. As vegetation decays in the water, tannins are leached out, resulting in transparent, acidic water that is darkly stained, resembling tea or coffee. Most major blackwater rivers are in the Amazon River system and the Southern United States. The term "blackwater" here is an agreed-upon technical one in fluvial studies, geology, geography and ecology/biology. Not all dark-colored rivers are true blackwater rivers in the technical sense. Some rivers in temperate regions, which drain or flow through areas of dark black loam, are colored black due to the color of the soil. These types of rivers can be referred to as black mud rivers; there are also black mud estuaries (see link above to rivers officially named Blackwater River.)

Blackwater rivers are much lower in nutrients than whitewater rivers and have ionic concentrations only slightly higher than rainwater.[1][2] The unique water conditions lead to a composition of flora and fauna that differs significantly from that found in whitewater sources. Areas where blackwater rivers and whitewater rivers combine are particularly attractive to a diverse group of organisms.
In a boat at sea one of the men began to bore a hole in the bottom of the boat. On being remonstrating with, he answered, "I am only boring under my own seat." "Yes," said his companions, "but when the sea rushes in we shall all be drowned with you."

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Re: Friendship Fountain Restoration Project To Break Ground
« Reply #32 on: August 30, 2010, 04:22:29 PM »
I would like a downtown skate park as well, but I'd rather see it on the Northbank.  Since a skateboard itself is a means of conveyance, there is no need for dedicated parking.  Just take a block in La Villa or around the Springfield park system and put one down.  A starter park could be built for cheap and added onto over time.

Hmmm? I'm not sure about LaVilla area. I personally think it would be cool on or close to the river. Shipyard skatepark?

I'd like a skatepark on the moon, but that probably won't happen.  The city won't use a very valuable peace of land for a skatepark I'm sure, so let's shoot for some of the less developed or desirable areas first. Under the fuller warren would have been great also.  Skate parks will generate foot traffic and be a hub for young and alternative businesses.

I by no means meant take up the entire shipyard with a skatepark, even being an old bum legged ex-skater I'd rather see it become a park of sorts. I do however agree with taking advantage of the plentiful space under our SEVEN bridges, the Fuller Warren being a great choice. There are so many cities around the country that have developed concrete parks under their overpasses and bridges.

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Re: Friendship Fountain Restoration Project To Break Ground
« Reply #33 on: August 30, 2010, 04:53:35 PM »
This is good news. Being that my job is directly across the street, Im going to enjoy looking out the window and wacthing the progress. I wish they would do something different with the exterior of the MOSH. It looks soo.......... old and bland
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« Reply #34 on: August 30, 2010, 04:56:57 PM »
I wish they would do something different with the exterior of the MOSH. It looks soo.......... old and bland

I've thought this for some time as well. You think being a science museum it would be a little more "modern", unless of course they are focusing more on the history portion of the museum. Don't get me wrong, still a great place to visit, I still enjoy the occasional pass through.

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Re: Friendship Fountain Restoration Project To Break Ground
« Reply #35 on: August 30, 2010, 06:15:16 PM »
I would like a downtown skate park as well, but I'd rather see it on the Northbank.  Since a skateboard itself is a means of conveyance, there is no need for dedicated parking.  Just take a block in La Villa or around the Springfield park system and put one down.  A starter park could be built for cheap and added onto over time.

Hmmm? I'm not sure about LaVilla area. I personally think it would be cool on or close to the river. Shipyard skatepark?

I'd like a skatepark on the moon, but that probably won't happen.  The city won't use a very valuable peace of land for a skatepark I'm sure, so let's shoot for some of the less developed or desirable areas first. Under the fuller warren would have been great also.  Skate parks will generate foot traffic and be a hub for young and alternative businesses.

I by no means meant take up the entire shipyard with a skatepark, even being an old bum legged ex-skater I'd rather see it become a park of sorts. I do however agree with taking advantage of the plentiful space under our SEVEN bridges, the Fuller Warren being a great choice. There are so many cities around the country that have developed concrete parks under their overpasses and bridges.

You gotta keep the skaters in mind. Those kids need a place to thrash around. Sometimes when I was on Southbank Id walk over there and chill watching the bladers & kids on boards do their thing. Im not even a skater fan, but I see their people watching importance.
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Re: Friendship Fountain Restoration Project To Break Ground
« Reply #36 on: August 30, 2010, 06:17:52 PM »
Coolyfett..............good observation................I agree! Something for everyone would be nice!

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Re: Friendship Fountain Restoration Project To Break Ground
« Reply #37 on: August 31, 2010, 07:54:55 AM »
Agreed... even though I use to skate you wouldn't catch me out there anymore, I'm far to accident prone and my bones just aren't cut out for that sorta thing anymore. I have however seen the neglect this group gets and they are often times misunderstood and labeled as misfits. Most people (obviously not metrojax) have no clue what a few free skateparks can do for these guys. It keeps them off the street and off private property (making business owners happy) and gives the incapable some entertainment while strolling through the park(s). Anyone know who I'd shoot an email to so I could propose such a thing? The least I can do is try... even if the plans for the Southbank are set in ink maybe there is room elsewhere in the urban core.

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Re: Friendship Fountain Restoration Project To Break Ground
« Reply #38 on: August 31, 2010, 08:00:26 AM »
I by no means meant take up the entire shipyard with a skatepark, even being an old bum legged ex-skater I'd rather see it become a park of sorts. I do however agree with taking advantage of the plentiful space under our SEVEN bridges, the Fuller Warren being a great choice. There are so many cities around the country that have developed concrete parks under their overpasses and bridges.

Under the Fuller Warren would be a great place, maybe down by PS4.  It's already loud, which I think is one of the main reasons people don't like skateparks.  

Back on subject.... we walked down by the fountain yesterday and they are already going at it so hopefully this thing goes off without a hitch.
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Re: Friendship Fountain Restoration Project To Break Ground
« Reply #39 on: August 31, 2010, 08:05:53 AM »
I by no means meant take up the entire shipyard with a skatepark, even being an old bum legged ex-skater I'd rather see it become a park of sorts. I do however agree with taking advantage of the plentiful space under our SEVEN bridges, the Fuller Warren being a great choice. There are so many cities around the country that have developed concrete parks under their overpasses and bridges.

Under the Fuller Warren would be a great place, maybe down by PS4.  It's already loud, which I think is one of the main reasons people don't like skateparks.  Boards flying around, grinding, etc makes a lot of racket.  Plus it's close to five points.

By School#4 would be a pretty good spot. They already have the basketball courts right there and they could connect it with the rest of the park... plus now that they are done with that portion of I-10/I-95 (for the most part) I'm sure it would be a little easier to build up. Is that space city owned? PLUS... that is super close to my main hangout and I have a few close friends that live of Stockton who can still handle themselves on a board.

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Re: Friendship Fountain Restoration Project To Break Ground
« Reply #40 on: August 31, 2010, 03:25:08 PM »
904Scars, I'd love to see a skate park downtown. And there are plenty of places that it could potentially be built.

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Re: Friendship Fountain Restoration Project To Break Ground
« Reply #41 on: August 31, 2010, 06:25:01 PM »
Whats the deal with the fountain? how high is it going to shoot?
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Re: Friendship Fountain Restoration Project To Break Ground
« Reply #42 on: August 31, 2010, 08:56:32 PM »
a skate park is a great idea. Right in that same area, under the main street bridge overpass, skateboarder's actually hangout. Ive sat there and wacthed them bust thier ass. They hang out up the street from there anyways, might as well make a spot for them. Its time for Jacksonville to think outside of the box.
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Re: Friendship Fountain Restoration Project To Break Ground
« Reply #43 on: August 31, 2010, 09:31:25 PM »
Too bad I have another commitment that I set up just before finding out about the event. My Sunday bike ride from end to end of the Southbank riverwalk was thwarted by all the orange fencing. Looking forward to comments and photos here!

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Re: Friendship Fountain Restoration Project To Break Ground
« Reply #44 on: September 01, 2010, 12:13:02 PM »
I made it out there this morning - nice little crowd, mostly consisting of suits and reporters, but there a handful of us representing "general citizenry". I have pictures, but need to sort them first.

That fountain looks weird being a dry concrete circle. At least we know the pumps will be replaced and it'll look like it used to.
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