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Re: Inside First Baptist Church Jacksonville
« Reply #45 on: March 06, 2010, 11:56:14 AM »
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Re: Inside First Baptist Church Jacksonville
« Reply #46 on: March 07, 2010, 09:40:05 PM »
Ground zero for homophobia and intolerance. FBC is a shameful black eye on the city of Jacksonville.

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Re: Inside First Baptist Church Jacksonville
« Reply #47 on: March 08, 2010, 12:14:35 AM »
Homophobia and intolerance are an integral part of several religious institutions, not just FBC.

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Re: Inside First Baptist Church Jacksonville
« Reply #48 on: March 08, 2010, 12:14:55 AM »
Ground zero for homophobia and intolerance. FBC is a shameful black eye on the city of Jacksonville.


I'm always amazed at how much the presence of a church full of worshipers disturbs some people. Most have probably never considered why in a nation of freedom of worship, a church like First Baptist would become so large in the first place... Go ahead... try it...

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Because they are in tune with what the majority of worshipers of any given faith believe. Rarely if ever will one see a mega-church with narrow isolated views. This is not to say that a case may or may not be made in scriptures for labeling certain things as sin, and helping in certain ways, or eating certain foods, or other particular beliefs, but the church of hate is thankfully very small. There is also a huge gulf between refusing to accept or practice that which is percieved as sin and acceptance of those who might be trapped in it's practice. That I consider Jesus as a God of Love, was a learned concept directly from the Southern Baptist Churches.

Did you know that "Miss Nude USA" was a member of FBC JAX? After winning her title, she ran into a lot of personal problems and decided to try church as a last resort. FBC JAX was the church, under Lindsey at the time, that opened their doors and hearts for her, no strings attached.

Did you know that about 1/2 of Guthrie, territorial capitol of Oklahoma, is taken up and/or owned by the Masonic Lodge? The largest Masonic Temple in the USA is there, and it is massive. A building that started out to be the state capitol, until the state charter was stolen one night by some hard riding cowboy raiders from Oklahoma City. There are also two sprawling Masonic Home properties in Guthrie, and I hear that they even have meetings in those buildings! Family activities! Charitable events! Serve pancake suppers! Help the sick! But you know what I've never heard? I've never heard anyone in Guthrie talking about how horrible it is that such people are in their downtown!

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Re: Inside First Baptist Church Jacksonville
« Reply #49 on: March 08, 2010, 09:26:08 AM »
What does the FBC do for the City of Jacksonville?  I keep asking this question and have never seen a response.  Do they sponsor a homeless shelter?  A meals program? A free or low-cost health clinic? A jobs program?  A rehab program for addictions or outreach to criminals to turn their lives around?  Anything?  Does anyone know?


That is a loaded question PJ.  The church and its membership is involved in many things.  I'm not a member and can't speak to what FBC as a whole is in sponsorship of, but there are gobs of ministries, programs, and charities they provide.  Check out the website http://www.fbcjax.com/  and see for yourself.  Click the ministries, calendar, and missions tabs and you'll see the many things the church has to offer.  The missions trips sponsored by this church are huge and I've heard of LOTS of donation money being used to fund the trips and to help those far away.  They also work with other churches in the area (my church included) to combine forces for ministries and missions.

Churches, especially FBC, are in buisness to help people BUT the underlying message is to spread the word of God through giving that help.


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Re: Inside First Baptist Church Jacksonville
« Reply #50 on: March 08, 2010, 10:36:19 AM »

I'm always amazed at how much the presence of a church full of worshipers disturbs some people.

Maybe it's because all too often those "worshipers" want to impose their views and values on everyone else. I'm amazed at how many religionists don't seem to understand that freedom of worship also includes the freedom NOT to participate in a religion.

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a church like First Baptist would become so large in the first place

This cuts both ways.  Seeing how the membership has dropped precipitously over the last few years certainly says something about how people view their positions as well.

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Re: Inside First Baptist Church Jacksonville
« Reply #51 on: March 10, 2010, 08:56:11 PM »

That is a loaded question PJ.  The church and its membership is involved in many things.  I'm not a member and can't speak to what FBC as a whole is in sponsorship of, but there are gobs of ministries, programs, and charities they provide.  Check out the website http://www.fbcjax.com/  and see for yourself.  Click the ministries, calendar, and missions tabs and you'll see the many things the church has to offer.  The missions trips sponsored by this church are huge and I've heard of LOTS of donation money being used to fund the trips and to help those far away.  They also work with other churches in the area (my church included) to combine forces for ministries and missions.

Churches, especially FBC, are in buisness to help people BUT the underlying message is to spread the word of God through giving that help.



Jason, I have been to their website, and I did look at the ministries page.  I see that they help people who are members of the church, and they travel the world to teach.  I do not see any city missions.

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Re: Inside First Baptist Church Jacksonville
« Reply #52 on: March 11, 2010, 07:48:21 AM »
The homepage mentions a missions trip to Argentina and they are apprently involved in Haiti disaster relief and have sent over volunteers.  That's about all the info I have and would rather an actual member speak to the other church offerings to its membership and community.

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Re: Inside First Baptist Church Jacksonville
« Reply #53 on: March 11, 2010, 08:39:48 AM »
The church sponsors mission trips all over the world. I know for fact because I have donated to the causes. After the Haiti earthquake donations were taken and a team is being assembled to go down to Haiti and help with the recovery. Anytime there is a mega disaster the church always takes up money and usually sends teams of people to help with any recovery efforts. The church also sends money and members to the various shelters around town to help them as well. The church has a very nice bookstore and serves lunch Tues-Thus all open to the public. There are also members who go out into the lowest income neighborhoods in Jacksonville and hold vacation Bible School and backyard Sunday School classes. The church also brings in hundreds of low income Jacksonville children at Christmas time, we serve them lunch, put on a Christmas play and then send them out with all kinds of presents, that are wrapped! I know because I volunteer at these events. It doesn't matter how much good the church does, there will always be those who look down on the church. These are only a few examples of some of what the church does for the community.

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Re: Inside First Baptist Church Jacksonville
« Reply #54 on: March 11, 2010, 11:32:42 AM »
Just like the good deeds of its members are attributed to the church, so too are the actions of its members.

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Re: Inside First Baptist Church Jacksonville
« Reply #55 on: March 11, 2010, 12:57:44 PM »
After the Haiti earthquake donations were taken and a team is being assembled to go down to Haiti and help with the recovery.

Sure it wasn't assembled to kidnap Haitian children?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/centralamericaandthecaribbean/haiti/7160065/US-Baptists-charged-with-kidnapping-Haitian-children.html

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Re: Inside First Baptist Church Jacksonville
« Reply #56 on: March 11, 2010, 01:39:10 PM »
Well seeing that the accused kidnappers were from Idaho, I doubt FBC members had anything to do with it.

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Re: Inside First Baptist Church Jacksonville
« Reply #57 on: March 11, 2010, 02:04:30 PM »
Well seeing that the accused kidnappers were from Idaho...

Those are just the ones who were caught.  ;)

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Re: Inside First Baptist Church Jacksonville
« Reply #58 on: March 30, 2010, 06:52:41 PM »
The church sponsors mission trips all over the world. I know for fact because I have donated to the causes. After the Haiti earthquake donations were taken and a team is being assembled to go down to Haiti and help with the recovery. Anytime there is a mega disaster the church always takes up money and usually sends teams of people to help with any recovery efforts. The church also sends money and members to the various shelters around town to help them as well. The church has a very nice bookstore and serves lunch Tues-Thus all open to the public. There are also members who go out into the lowest income neighborhoods in Jacksonville and hold vacation Bible School and backyard Sunday School classes. The church also brings in hundreds of low income Jacksonville children at Christmas time, we serve them lunch, put on a Christmas play and then send them out with all kinds of presents, that are wrapped! I know because I volunteer at these events. It doesn't matter how much good the church does, there will always be those who look down on the church. These are only a few examples of some of what the church does for the community.
Thank you FSUJax.  I only saw your response to my question today, so I am a bit tardy expressing my gratitude.  This is the first time I ever heard that FBC helps the city shelters.  Good to know.

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Re: Inside First Baptist Church Jacksonville
« Reply #59 on: March 31, 2010, 10:02:49 AM »
Call him bitter, call him cynical, but darned if Watchdog doesn't run the most enlightening blog.

http://fbcjaxwatchdog.blogspot.com/

Crap like all of the backstabbing, doublespeak, and underhandedness of the First Baptist Church is part of the reason I'm a proud, cynical and jaded atheist. (Mind you, I was also raised Catholic, so that's about 90% of it right there.)
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