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Parkway Shops Coming to the Northside
« on: January 25, 2010, 06:07:03 AM »
Parkway Shops Coming to the Northside



Fresh off the success of River City Marketplace, Ramco-Gershenson Properties Trust is poised to bring another shopping center to Jacksonville's growing Northside.


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Re: Parkway Shops Coming to the Northside
« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2010, 06:10:04 AM »
Yup! Here comes another concrete jungle............JTA must be happier than a bus.........ohh look here's a chance to put in more concrete.....Whopee!

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Re: Parkway Shops Coming to the Northside
« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2010, 08:08:22 AM »
I see they are planning on replacing the one signal up there with a roundabout...just imagine how that intersection would look if the buildings on all sides were brought up to the street.

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« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2010, 08:36:04 AM »
An example of what MJ would rather see.  Note that this project is 3 miles away from DT Charlotte.

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/local/story/1202368.html

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On track: Urban village near train

Firm: Listless market won't stop Crosland Greens near Scaleybark light-rail stop.

By Karen Sullivan
ksullivan@charlotteobserver.com
Posted: Monday, Jan. 25, 2010

One of the proposed developments that together would transform neighborhoods around the Scaleybark light-rail station is moving forward despite the recession.

Crosland expects to break ground perhaps late this year on a transit-oriented urban village on 36 acres at Scaleybark Road and South Boulevard.

Design work is under way for Crosland Greens, which will be about 3 miles southwest of uptown.

The first phase will include about 10 acres and prep work on other parts of the property. The first project will be a 16,500-square-foot building to replace the Scaleybark Branch public library, which is about one-third the size of the proposed building.

Crosland also has commitments for about 20,000 square feet in a proposed 60,000-square-foot, three-story office building, which also would be completed in the development's first phase.

Later phases of development will add retail and about 700 residences to the property, said Stephen H. Mauldin, Crosland's chief financial officer.

The concept for Crosland Greens borrows features from Birkdale Village, a mixed-use community in Huntersville.

"It takes bits and pieces from lots of things," Mauldin said of Crosland Greens. "Part of the main street and scale would be a more urban form of a Birkdale Village - a tighter form of that."

Officials at Crosland say Crosland Greens will be a leading-edge example of sustainable development planning and practices.

Birkdale was built by Pappas Properties, which has proposed a neighboring mixed-use community on the opposite side of South Boulevard from Crosland's development.

Crosland has collaborated with Pappas Properties' planned project near the rail station. Their goal is create a cohesive look for communities in the Scaleybark Transit District with similar lighting and signs, Mauldin said.

Northwest Mutual Life Insurance Co. is Crosland's capital partner and is committed to moving forward with the project this year, Mauldin said. Timing for Pappas Properties' project depends on market conditions, said Peter Pappas, president.

The Charlotte City Council approved Crosland's rezoning application last June. The transit-oriented-development zoning designation allows a minimum density of 15 residential units per acre.

Crosland plans to build apartments, condos, townhouses and single-family homes that would fit a variety of incomes.

The project will not have the same retail mix as Birkdale Village, whose directory includes national retailers such as Banana Republic and Williams-Sonoma.

The retail plan for Crosland Greens includes a grocery store, restaurants and other services that support everyday needs in a neighborhood.

Those tenants could encourage walking within the community rather than driving to other locations, all important features for Crosland's goal of sustaining the community, Mauldin said.

"We've done bigger and we've done more complex (projects)," Mauldin said. "Our emotional attachment to this site is very deep and runs back many years."

John Crosland Jr., 82 and the company's chairman emeritus, built 50 duplexes on part of the property in the late 1950s. It was his first job after he returned from the Korean War.

Those 50 duplexes still house tenants. Those residents and about 50 apartments on the northeast portion of the property will have to relocate. They won't be affected in the initial phases of development, Mauldin said.



A tale of two cities ...
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Re: Parkway Shops Coming to the Northside
« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2010, 09:19:08 AM »
A tale of two cities is correct.

One is forward thinking.

One is backwood, I mean backward thinking

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Re: Parkway Shops Coming to the Northside
« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2010, 09:25:29 AM »
Great addition to the Marketplace, but allow me to ask a stupid question being that I am now not living in Jax; what has happened in that area of the Northside to justify these shopping centers and other developments in that area?  I know it's got to be more than just the Airport, and I am sure some developments have sprung up near the Airport.  Someone please educate me.  Thanx.

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« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2010, 09:28:29 AM »
There are a ton of single family subdivisions that have been built along streets like Yellow Bluff, New Berlin and Starratt Rd over the last decade, strengthening the market in that area.
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Re: Parkway Shops Coming to the Northside
« Reply #7 on: January 25, 2010, 10:29:15 AM »
WoW. Comparing those two projects makes my head (and stomach) hurt.

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Re: Parkway Shops Coming to the Northside
« Reply #8 on: January 25, 2010, 11:02:32 AM »
Our proposed Commuter Rail station at Main and Airport Center Drive, just got a WHOLE LOT more relevant.

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Re: Parkway Shops Coming to the Northside
« Reply #9 on: January 25, 2010, 11:14:10 AM »
Don't be so sure about your conclusion Lake! I have heard differently.

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Re: Parkway Shops Coming to the Northside
« Reply #10 on: January 25, 2010, 11:39:17 AM »
There are a ton of single family subdivisions that have been built along streets like Yellow Bluff, New Berlin and Starratt Rd over the last decade, strengthening the market in that area.

Thanks Lake.  When I lived in Jax, that area was almost devoid of any developments, subdivisions, etc.  I guess the extreme Northside will soon become "posh" like the Southside of Jax.

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Re: Parkway Shops Coming to the Northside
« Reply #11 on: January 25, 2010, 11:41:12 AM »
Don't be so sure about your conclusion Lake! I have heard differently.

Please explain!  I would love to be wrong.
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Re: Parkway Shops Coming to the Northside
« Reply #12 on: January 25, 2010, 12:15:33 PM »
The Northside was VERY underserved to begin with.  All of the new subdivisions certainly helped, but at least some of that retail could have been supported a long time ago.  I think I read that when the theater opened, they were the  only screens NORTH of the River in the entire city limits.

I guess only Southsiders/Clay/St. John's residents went to the movies.  I call it demographic discrimination.
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« Reply #13 on: January 25, 2010, 12:46:29 PM »
There are one or two developments similar to what you talk about in Richmond, VA as well.  Walkable "villiages" in a way. Live, work, shop and have fun all in the same development.

River Place is not driver friendly and promoting walking would be very cool, but how do you make it safe to walk where it is unsafe to drive?
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« Reply #14 on: January 25, 2010, 01:49:09 PM »
The first thing to do is stop the bleeding (repeating the same mistakes over again).  Stopping the bleeding could come in the form of requiring new development (like Parkway Shops, Shands North and the outparcels lining Duval and Airport Center Dr) to be built in a sustainable manner that supports multimodal transportation alternatives while accomodating the car.
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