Author Topic: Ruins of Jacksonville: Annie Lytle Public School  (Read 53583 times)

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Re: Ruins of Jacksonville: Annie Lytle Public School
« Reply #45 on: October 02, 2009, 08:18:02 AM »
I always suspected that the inside was as stunningly beautiful as the outside. It is well suted to practically any purpose. It really isn't so far gone that refurbishing would not be feasable. A roof and window coverings would cetainly go a long way in presrving the beauty that still exists. A million clams? Bargain.

It needs mor ein repairs than the purchase cost. Any idea regarding potiental conditioned square footage?

42,000 sq. ft in the existing building.  Probably 5-7 million to bring it up to code i.e. sprinklers, HVAC, windows, wiring, plumbing.  Costs higher or lower depending on amount of remodeling needed to change the usage.  There is room on the site for additional buildings as the lot actually runs all the way back to Rosselle Street.
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Re: Ruins of Jacksonville: Annie Lytle Public School
« Reply #46 on: October 02, 2009, 01:55:40 PM »
Question.. with the overpass being as close to the school as it is now.. what happens (IF.. and I say IF.. *KNOCK ON WOOD*) a Semi rolls over on top of it?

The school being on the inside of the curve, the centrifugal force of a semi's motion would topple it on the left side, away from the school. Even in a collision of two trucks, a sudden jerk of the wheel, it would be the most unlikely accident in history.

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Re: Ruins of Jacksonville: Annie Lytle Public School
« Reply #47 on: October 02, 2009, 07:02:40 PM »
Question.. with the overpass being as close to the school as it is now.. what happens (IF.. and I say IF.. *KNOCK ON WOOD*) a Semi rolls over on top of it?


Yea it is on a turn as well as the school is not as close as it looks in some of my pictures. It is still several hundred feet from the road and nearly impossible to have a car or debris hit it.

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Re: Ruins of Jacksonville: Annie Lytle Public School
« Reply #48 on: October 02, 2009, 11:09:19 PM »
That's refreshing to hear. It's something I always though about once I started seeing pictures of how close it was.

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Re: Ruins of Jacksonville: Annie Lytle Public School
« Reply #49 on: October 02, 2009, 11:25:15 PM »
Welcome stoners. Never knew what the 4:20 reference meant. Damn the things I learn on here. Are the stoner tendencies and ad nauseum rail talk inter-related? Inquiring minds want to know.  ;)



No man! The railroad talk is both vocation and avocation forever. Though some people think it was the 4,367 acid trips I took with Tim Leary.

The other part is being a 60's early 70's Hippie, and still being honest and carefree. 90% of the folks my age went through the same thing, but somehow a giant vacuum came out of the mist and erased their minds. I know people from Police, to Executives, to Preachers, that rode that stoner bus. It was fun while it lasted and thank God I survived, but hey, it's part of me, and I'm not going to hide it in some self righteous play. In the old MET JAX site I once posted a OLD HIPPIE thread, and we had a lot of fun with it. Lot's of people knew all the answers to my 30+ question Hippie Quiz, but none had ever tried drugs or broken a single law. These hypocrites always keep a supply of stimulant handy in case they see a snake, which they also keep handy. Their motto: "I don't care to belong to a club that accepts people like me as members." So to all inquiring minds, if we meet someday, bring me a bottle of SOCO (that's really as good as it gets today) and I'll weave some wild tales.

So how did I become a railroad guy and family man? My kids all grew up knowing every detail of that era, and crazy dad, and not ONE wants to ever go near a drug! Drugs? Ha! Vietnam and the VA have seen to it that I don't run out, might as well enjoy it. The only down side is my kids are constantly yelling for me to PLEASE TURN DOWN THE MUSIC...Hee Hee See! Bet y'all didn't think I'd post this...



From the movie "Taking Woodstock", quite good and about as real as it gets... Should be on video soon

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Ock, you kill me man....In a good way that is. More hippie stories please! ;D

Side note...did some research on the old Baldwin trains (talked to some real old-timers) once I get the info in some order I will post. The thing that fascinated me the most is that I had relatives that worked at a place called the "Grab". It was a restaurant/flop house (for lack of a better word). It catered to transient railroaders in the 30's 40-s. Pretty cool.   

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Re: Ruins of Jacksonville: Annie Lytle Public School
« Reply #50 on: October 05, 2009, 03:11:09 PM »
annie lytle is my favorite piece of urban decay that Jax has to offer...

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Re: Ruins of Jacksonville: Annie Lytle Public School
« Reply #51 on: October 05, 2009, 10:03:01 PM »
stephendare.... If you know the owners and I can arrange a film crew do you think they would allow a music video shoot...... as long as we were respectful of the building and its condition? And as a side note to any of you out there interested you should also google this "urban readymades" their link is, http://www.goeroes.nl/dev/urm.nsf/frmPress?Open This location is a perfect example of what "URM" is looking for.

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Re: Ruins of Jacksonville: Annie Lytle Public School
« Reply #52 on: October 05, 2009, 10:59:20 PM »
just sneak in at night like everyone else does!

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Re: Ruins of Jacksonville: Annie Lytle Public School
« Reply #53 on: October 06, 2009, 12:23:08 PM »
lol.  a film crew and video?

dude.  theres not a chance in hell that they will go for that. :D

Why not? Lots of important clients gonna be staying there for awhile?

This sounds like a awesome idea. I guess this is why film makers moved to Hollywood.
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Re: Ruins of Jacksonville: Annie Lytle Public School
« Reply #54 on: October 06, 2009, 01:13:06 PM »
You think he would ever allow the Ghost Hunter guys to do an episode there?
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Re: Ruins of Jacksonville: Annie Lytle Public School
« Reply #55 on: October 11, 2009, 11:09:12 PM »
The Owner/ Attorney Doug Milne has let the school crumble so far into neglect that he WILL NOT be responsible for any injuries or anybody trampling around.
No Chance to any Videos unless you drop major coin on him. And JSO is still busting people even if the fence is open.... :D
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Re: Ruins of Jacksonville: Annie Lytle Public School
« Reply #56 on: October 14, 2009, 01:41:40 AM »
The thought of the auditorium in School Four becoming a venue spot got me thinking of a video I had seen in the 90's quite a lot. I'm sure most of you remember "Unsung" by Helmet...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHt2qjGhcA0

Not a venue, but interesting to see a band use what looks like an old stage from either a venue or an auditorium of sorts for a performance based video. Imagine what School Four could become if the right individual(s) had a fire lit up their ass and threw hundreds of thousands of dollars into getting it out and rebuilding from the inside out. It could become the next generation's Milk Bar, catering to the underground, alternative, etc.. genres of music. The place would be a hit with the young crowd, I know I'd go.

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Re: Ruins of Jacksonville: Annie Lytle Public School
« Reply #57 on: November 13, 2009, 09:01:39 PM »
According to Doug.... Plans to develop PS #4 and adding a new building , non-attached at the back of the school to create a 133 unit development for Apartments for 55 and up is SUPPOSED to be in place.  With all due respect, I'm not holding my breath for that to become reality.  I personally think if it were a viable plan to make that building into Apartments for whatever use, it would long ago have taken place.   A destination spot makes much more sense .. Mixed use , a variety of small businesses, including a music venue in the Auditorium area.  I look at it this way:  YES the building is in horrid condition as it stands right now.. but the building itself, Thick brick walls and Concrete , in construction make the skeleton of the building still... nearly a century later  VERY savable.  If it had been maintained, it would still have to have costly and extensive remedial work to bring it to modern code.. But one could NOT demolish it and replace it with something of similar construction (the 20 inch thick brick walls and concrete) and accomplish that from a NEW BUILD standpoint for less money than it would take to renovate that building.   I remain hopeful, though i am physically no longer able to do the maintenance work I once did gladly there,  that it will somehow , some way be spared.   I like Mr Milne, personally... but I do wish he and the proposed developers would think outside the box of residential..  It just simply IS NOT a fit in that location.

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Re: Ruins of Jacksonville: Annie Lytle Public School
« Reply #58 on: November 13, 2009, 09:04:40 PM »
I also happen to know that a Florida Band approached Mr Milne about a year ago , wanting to use the property to do a video.  He denied that request, and I do not blame him.  Anyone who has recently been in the building would know quickly that it is just far too dangerous to do any such activity. I long for the day when its renovation becomes a reality.

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Re: Ruins of Jacksonville: Annie Lytle Public School
« Reply #59 on: November 16, 2009, 01:41:46 AM »
Honestly, the work you've done in the past seems to be the most love anyone has given it since it's closing. I brought up the topic of School Four in the break room awhile back, and said that this guy Doug Milne is just letting the school sit and rot, and a fellow associate, an older elderly lady, said you shouldn't judge until you walk in his shoes.. and that she knows him. I said, I'm not judging, I'm just sitting back hoping and praying that he doesn't let get it demolished. Can you imagine the backlash he'd receive if he let it crumble? I'd HATE to be in his shoes.

I understand him turning away a band wanting to shoot a video there, but good lord, imagine if the place WAS a full, solid, up to code and safe, soundproof, air-conditioned wall to wall building, and a band DID shoot a music video there. Imagine if that music video made it to MTV during it's renovation, and was consistently shown on MTV morning, noon, and night..

Oh wait.. it's already happened.. with a school across the river.. and yours truly is in it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fK6V6kxq-UQ

While shooting the video at the school in 1 long 10 hour day, you could see renovations going on. 6 months later, it opened as Condos.