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Elements of Urbanism: San Diego
« on: July 10, 2009, 05:42:12 AM »
Elements of Urbanism: San Diego



San Diego may be the west coast's best example to follow in Jacksonville's efforts to revitalize the city by embracing sustainable urban development and fixed-mass transit.

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Re: Elements of Urbanism: San Diego
« Reply #1 on: July 10, 2009, 07:15:03 AM »
San Diego is a very nice and expensive city. Not to put another knock on our home town, but inorder to have developments seen there you must have vision, leadership, and money of course and frankley we have neither. The good old boy routine that exist in this city will never let this type of development happen. We have been plagued for decades with poor decision making. We have made some improvements, but when you see cities like this you wonder if we will ever see anything like this.

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Re: Elements of Urbanism: San Diego
« Reply #2 on: July 10, 2009, 07:56:15 AM »
Just to reiterate:

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you must have vision, leadership, and money

Any of those photos taken in June? I didn't realize how much I missed those purple jacarandas...


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Re: Elements of Urbanism: San Diego
« Reply #3 on: July 10, 2009, 08:03:26 AM »
They were all taken in June.
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Re: Elements of Urbanism: San Diego
« Reply #4 on: July 10, 2009, 08:11:38 AM »
Great article.  Lots of in-depth analysis.


SD shows what Jax could be, if it REALLY wanted to. 
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Re: Elements of Urbanism: San Diego
« Reply #5 on: July 10, 2009, 08:25:03 AM »
great article Lake!

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Re: Elements of Urbanism: San Diego
« Reply #6 on: July 10, 2009, 09:19:47 AM »
What an exciting Europeanesque looking city.  The convention center is huge and looks great, with essential hotels located nearby.  The city limits of San Diego are almost as big as duval county as a whole, and the city limits are not inclusive of the county.  Our old city limits look pale and extremely small in comparison.  This is the first time that I have viewed photos of San Diego and I am awestruck and impressed; doesn't look like an American City at all, clean, tidy, manicured (unless there are other blighted/run down areas that haven't been shown), and obviously as someone mentioned, there is quite a lot of money being thrown around.  Jax could be San Diego with the right leadership, vision and focus. There is nothing that cannot be done and never say never; just need the right people to make it happen.

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Re: Elements of Urbanism: San Diego
« Reply #7 on: July 10, 2009, 10:04:43 AM »
San Diego is one of my favorite cities.  It has everything and a great climate to boot.  Petco field is awesome and the gaslight district is also a lot of fun.  They have some amazing historic hotels downtown and lots of different restaurants and things to do.  They also are not held hostage by big churches, but are still very conservative there nonetheless due to the big presence of the military bases.  With all that and the Mexican border nearby they've done a great job of creating an awesome american city!
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Re: Elements of Urbanism: San Diego
« Reply #8 on: July 10, 2009, 10:10:58 AM »
San Diego is nice. Too me it is so much better than LA. Jacksonville is not the only large city with a large church downtown. Houston and Dallas both have mega churches Downtown and it hasnt seem to stop their downtown development. I believe it goes a lot deeper than just having a large church downtown. Poor leadserhip in urban development and no will power to get it done is our problem. Mind you not everyone who attends those large churches is anti-downtown!

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Re: Elements of Urbanism: San Diego
« Reply #9 on: July 10, 2009, 10:20:38 AM »
Forget jacksonville, I'm ready to move to San Diego!

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Re: Elements of Urbanism: San Diego
« Reply #10 on: July 10, 2009, 10:30:34 AM »
San Diego is a lot of fun it is amazing how people are outside all of the time. The boardwalk at the beach is a great time.
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Re: Elements of Urbanism: San Diego
« Reply #11 on: July 10, 2009, 10:32:39 AM »
the big difference between all of the cities your Elements of Urbanism has covered and Jacksonville: Density, have a broad white collar employment, their not run by the southern baptist church, they aren't tearing down their historic urban fabric, their city leaders have a progressive visionary approach and no good ole boy network.

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Re: Elements of Urbanism: San Diego
« Reply #12 on: July 10, 2009, 10:57:53 AM »
I've always loved San Diego.  Its a Top 5 US city for me. 


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Re: Elements of Urbanism: San Diego
« Reply #13 on: July 10, 2009, 10:59:48 AM »
From what I have heard, the San Diego of the '80's is the Jacksonville of today.  

Maybe there needs ot be an in-depth examination of SD post WW2 to see exactly how they took the path that lead them to where they are today.  

Although it is not in DT proper, Balboa Park is a must see when visiting SD.  It is a HUGE mega park that is well maintained and is the home of the world famous zoo, and about 10 museums. 
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Re: Elements of Urbanism: San Diego
« Reply #14 on: July 10, 2009, 11:18:57 AM »
Forget jacksonville, I'm ready to move to San Diego!

In all due respect, "your bags are not packed yet?"

I hope you are not dissing our city.  It is not the city's fault that it is stagnant in all areas of growth and prosperity.  However, I feel your despair, frustration, etc.  But don't diss our city.

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