Author Topic: Metro Jacksonville gets new Signage on I-95  (Read 11023 times)

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Re: Metro Jacksonville gets new Signage on I-95
« Reply #45 on: May 22, 2009, 08:35:52 AM »
The $58,000 likely would have been spent on something anyway. At least now we know it was spent on something useful.

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Re: Metro Jacksonville gets new Signage on I-95
« Reply #46 on: May 22, 2009, 08:45:44 AM »
Since we are on the topic of usefulness, what about additions to the southbound I-95 signage at 9A/295 and downtown?  Not many people know exiting on Union and continuing over the Mathews to Atlantic would lead to Atlantic Beach.

Southbound 95 at the US-90 and JTB exits already highlights "Jax Beaches" as a destination, so why not north of the river?

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Re: Metro Jacksonville gets new Signage on I-95
« Reply #47 on: May 22, 2009, 08:49:52 AM »
Speaking of innaccurate signs... last week I was heading home from the 5 points area via Stockton.  I crossed under the I-10 interstate in the right hand lane preparing for a right turn onto Irene.  On the newly painted right turn only lane with accompanying arrow I was shocked to see "RIGHT TURN ONLY but with the N backwards.  Laughingly I made the right turn only to see the exact same thing in the right turn only lane to merge onto I-10 West... backwards freeking N... in ONLY.

Not sure if it is still there or not... I wonder how much paint costs... :D
I drove that route last night and noticed the character formerly known as the reverse N has been changed to an actual letter; however, it was a poor job as it now looks like an 'X' since not much was done to remove the diagonal line from the previous non-letter.

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Re: Metro Jacksonville gets new Signage on I-95
« Reply #48 on: May 22, 2009, 09:10:26 AM »
 :D Thanks for the update...  :D Jacksonville... :D
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Re: Metro Jacksonville gets new Signage on I-95
« Reply #49 on: May 22, 2009, 09:17:30 AM »
To their credit, the right turn only lane on Irene indicates it is such every 20 feet or so.

I guess the message is, "YOU MAY ONLY TURN RIGHT FROM THIS LANE!"

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Re: Metro Jacksonville gets new Signage on I-95
« Reply #50 on: May 22, 2009, 07:08:37 PM »
JaxNole wrote "Not many people know exiting on Union and continuing over the Mathews to Atlantic would lead to Atlantic Beach."

It would be better to use the MLK Pkwy to get to the Mathews if coming south on I95.
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Re: Metro Jacksonville gets new Signage on I-95
« Reply #51 on: May 22, 2009, 07:53:38 PM »
JaxNole wrote "Not many people know exiting on Union and continuing over the Mathews to Atlantic would lead to Atlantic Beach."

It would be better to use the MLK Pkwy to get to the Mathews if coming south on I95.

Good catch.  Another great opportunity to bring awareness to motorists that not only is there a bridge, but it leads to the beaches and the Atlantic.

Some people spontaneously hop in a car and explore new areas and some rely on signage to determine destinations.

Why doesn't FDOT more frequently highlight on our interstate signage that we have beaches and that Exit 3nn can take you there?

If our focus is on destinations, which makes more sense: To advertise which exit takes you to FCCJ/FSCJ Downtown or to the Times-Union PAC, Jacksonville Municipal Stadium, MOCA, The Jacksonville Landing, The Beaches, etc...?
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Re: Metro Jacksonville gets new Signage on I-95
« Reply #52 on: May 22, 2009, 10:53:46 PM »
Not many people know exiting on Union and continuing over the Mathews to Atlantic would lead to Atlantic Beach.

Speaking of the I-95 Southbound exit for Union exit, as I recall, it leads to Beaver Street as well, but DOT also has no signs saying so.  Instead, on I-95, they direct you to Kings Road and around the post office to a side street, Eaverson.  Only the "insiders" are in the know!  Imagine building an exit ramp and then telling no one it exists.  ???

I suspect a DOT engineer will tell us Union is a left hand exit which I know they hate to build anymore, and the ramp to Beaver Street has a stop sign, not a light.  But, going to Eaverson is literally going around the block!  In rebuilding I-95, maybe they missed an opportunity to improve this.  We have already had MJ threads about the neglect of Beaver Street, a U.S. highway no less, and this is just another example of it.  Maybe it's why economically depressed areas stay that way?!
« Last Edit: May 27, 2009, 10:19:14 PM by stjr »
Hey!  Whatever happened to just plain ol' COMMON SENSE!!

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Re: Metro Jacksonville gets new Signage on I-95
« Reply #53 on: May 22, 2009, 11:37:08 PM »
My guess is a broad-sweeping neglect of the area.  Beaver carries considerable truck traffic and passes through industrial and decaying neighborhoods.  Yet another improvement FDOT could make.

I don't understand many of the designs of our interstates, intrastates and highways, but, if I did not grow up here, I would say Jacksonville trails only Boston with the most confusing road system.  At least Boston's excuse is the settlement predated the modern road system.

Since this is a thread about I-95 signage, perhaps we can take a cue from Steve and continue suggesting improvements to FDOT.  Maybe if we follow Steve's efforts, FDOT will be more mindful of signage and improve its usefulness to those who pay attention to them.

Steve, are you up for it?  If not, I'd be happy to begin.  PM me if you're interested.

BTW, anyone know when 9A will officially become signed 295?  Further, when will all references to 295 indicate whether it is the West or East beltway?

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Re: Metro Jacksonville gets new Signage on I-95
« Reply #54 on: May 23, 2009, 03:03:29 AM »
BTW, anyone know when 9A will officially become signed 295?  Further, when will all references to 295 indicate whether it is the West or East beltway?

Last I've seen it will be "sometime in 2010."

http://www.jacksonville.com/news/metro/2009-01-29/story/what%E2%80%99s_in_a_direction_on_i_295_in_2010_it_depends

Perhaps there is a newer update?

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Re: Metro Jacksonville gets new Signage on I-95
« Reply #55 on: June 01, 2009, 12:09:01 AM »
I thought I noticed something different when I drove through there today :)

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Re: Metro Jacksonville gets new Signage on I-95
« Reply #56 on: June 07, 2009, 11:46:20 AM »
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Thank you for wasting $58,000 dollars on something that will be obsolete in the near future. This was a huge waste of money that the tax payers pay for that could have gone toward something much more productive.

Thats interesting, I am surprised something that was broken was actually fixed in Jax. Good job to the movers and shakers. Maybe MetroJax can help with other things.
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Re: Metro Jacksonville gets new Signage on I-95
« Reply #57 on: June 07, 2009, 12:02:36 PM »
let's think of more signs to change in an effort to aleviate confusion, even though the signs will be torn down later: coming NORTH on 95 say u wanna go to the town center (absurd idea right?) be sure to take 9A EAST? even though i'm going north on it eventually?... yes, i know. but dont worry soon it will be 295 north Eastern Beltway, bc that's not gonna confuse anyone lol.

I have to disagree, when heading south or north toward a beltway the signs should read East and West. The expressway that you are on is the beltway divider, even thought the circle will eventually parallel the same expressway IE 95.

When does 9A become 295 East anyway? Whats up with those signs?
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Re: Metro Jacksonville gets new Signage on I-95
« Reply #58 on: June 07, 2009, 12:13:23 PM »
I suspect a DOT engineer will tell us Union is a left hand exit which I know they hate to build anymore, and the ramp to Beaver Street has a stop sign, not a light.  But, going to Eaverson is literally going around the block!  In rebuilding I-95, maybe they missed an opportunity to improve this.  We have already had MJ threads about the neglect of Beaver Street, a U.S. highway no less, and this is just another example of it.  Maybe it's why economically depressed areas stay that way?!

Impressive, the same could be said about the exits on 20th Expressway. The exits are not done properly.
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