Author Topic: The I-95 Overland Bridge Project  (Read 16767 times)

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Re: The I-95 Overland Bridge Project
« Reply #45 on: September 03, 2009, 10:01:12 PM »

In a full economic recovery, is there much more to come?


The intermodal station in an alley, but that's okay, because the parking lot for the station is inaccessible from any of at least 4 directions. Oops!

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Do they build another station a few feet south of the present one to maintain access from the garage and the hotels? And, what would it have cost at the time, since it's supposed to be just a "roll" away, to have built the station at the garage on Day 1?

You have landed on one of the many points I fought over with JTA. Why in the >>>> did they:

1. build a garage that NO ONE on the freeway can get to.

2. Why, with the Overland Bridge Project didn't we find a way to access the hotel and garage, Kings Avenue in general and get it funded BEFORE we start rebuilding the damn thing, then do it all at once?

3. There is no logical reason for the Skyway to have stopped short of the planned garage, even back when the hotel was a vacant lot.

4. If the garage was not even on the radar then Why was the Skyway Station, properly designed to be intermodal, then stuffed behind a block of buildings?

5. This puts a future line south, in the position of stopping twice within a few hundred feet. This is not the Skyway's fault, it IS the fault of the planners.

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There are two logical fixes, and only if the Federal Government funds at the promised 100% level for existing fixed rail transit:

Extend the line on to Atlantic, with the following features:

A dual side station at the new Hilton AND the garage, can you say, "1 mile of SINGLE TRACK...?" otherwise the divided track would have to be stacked with one level for each direction of travel.

At Atlantic, since it would be railroad right of way, get it down at street platform level so we could have across the platform transfers (like I have suggested before and stjr seems to like) at grade. I know it is a monorail, but if Disney in Tokyo can have an at grade station so can we! DITTO for ever other new end-point.

Lastly, to cure the frustration of constant stops at empty station platforms, installing an elevator style call button for each stop would make sense. The system in Morgantown W.VA. system uses this technology.

Fill every new station with lease space for unique retail and food outlets, hell I'll even open up a "Skyway Shop".
selling the models and the Tee Shirts and hats, to every Yankee that spots it from the freeway and takes a ride!
stjr? Want to partner with me?


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Re: The I-95 Overland Bridge Project
« Reply #46 on: September 03, 2009, 10:05:26 PM »
I will be the "home brew" vendor. That may boost ridership.

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Re: The I-95 Overland Bridge Project
« Reply #47 on: September 03, 2009, 10:07:51 PM »
.....and can I get fed stimulus money to vend my home brew (since I will be selling on a public transit route)  :)

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Re: The I-95 Overland Bridge Project
« Reply #48 on: September 03, 2009, 10:21:47 PM »
I will be the "home brew" vendor. That may boost ridership.

Hey it works for me!

Humm? Wonder what a Bourbon would taste like brewed with Florida Spring water?


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Re: The I-95 Overland Bridge Project
« Reply #49 on: September 03, 2009, 10:52:49 PM »
We can give it a "shot" Ock... ;)

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Re: The I-95 Overland Bridge Project
« Reply #50 on: June 05, 2010, 12:23:43 PM »
This popped up today, all the more reason to get this on the fast track.

http://www.actionnewsjax.com/content/topstories/story/Large-hole-partially-closes-I-95/TW-ZvhMVyUKVGv9BdjuI0A.cspx

A large hole has shutdown I-95's southbound lanes in Jacksonville
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Re: The I-95 Overland Bridge Project
« Reply #51 on: June 05, 2010, 12:30:34 PM »

I think that's the bugger there...
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Re: The I-95 Overland Bridge Project
« Reply #52 on: September 25, 2010, 07:24:20 AM »
i wish i wish...when are we as a city going to get a break on construction. We just finished the bridge...now a mess until 2017...this is rediculous...i'm thinking of moving...this city is so backwards. There's nothing wrong with that section of the interstate and i feel it's a waist of money and time spend in traffic for another 5 years.

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Re: The I-95 Overland Bridge Project
« Reply #53 on: September 25, 2010, 08:49:03 AM »
feel free to move....I'm not sure there are many other cities that don't have the construction problem....definitely none in Florida.

btw, that section of interstate is a bridge, built 50+ years ago....safety ratings show that it is deteriorating and needs to be replaced relatively soon.

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Re: The I-95 Overland Bridge Project
« Reply #54 on: September 25, 2010, 09:15:57 AM »
understood.
parts of its system are failing.
HOWEVER, is it true that while an additional travel lane will be added to 95South through the project limits from beyond the San Marco exit over Prudential Dr. past the Atlantic/Beach exit and US1/PhilipsHwy at the expense of sacraficing direct access to Hendricks from Main St. bridge southbound out of Downtown as is currently provided with the present design?
IF so, this change sux!

I cannot grasp how planners and developers could make something smell like a rose but they instead leave it all stinkin like a pot o' shiz.

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Re: The I-95 Overland Bridge Project
« Reply #55 on: September 25, 2010, 11:13:13 AM »
yes...it is true...but not because of the extra lane...because the current weave is unsafe...people crossing to get off I-95 @ Hendricks while others are crossing from the Acosta to get on 95.

also, keep in mind there is no direct access from Hendricks to the Main St Bridge going NB...we use Riverplace Blvd

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Re: The I-95 Overland Bridge Project
« Reply #56 on: September 25, 2010, 02:14:25 PM »
I drove my motorcycle over that land bridge shortly after it opened and remember how thrilled I was and how modern I though Jacksonville was to have an elevated roadway like that.

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Re: The I-95 Overland Bridge Project
« Reply #57 on: January 27, 2011, 03:16:29 PM »
I-95 Overland Bridge construction hearing tonight:

4:30pm to 7:30pm

Aetna Building

841 Prudential Drive

Jacksonville, FL 32207
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