Author Topic: Haskell matches Project Blue Sky, the Downtown HQ relocating to the Southbank  (Read 9738 times)

thelakelander

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It looks like Haskell could be on the move to the Southbank....

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Project Blue Sky, the city’s code-named company that proposes to relocate its Downtown international headquarters within the district to the Southbank, matches Haskell, the Jacksonville-based global architecture, engineering, construction and consulting company.

Haskell is based at 111 Riverside Ave. on the Northbank of the Brooklyn area of Downtown. It built the three-story, almost 120,000-square-foot building on 3.15 acres in 1986. That size increases to more than 230,000 square feet including garage, base and balconies areas.

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The unidentified Project Blue Sky – with 650 existing jobs – would receive $4.35 million in city incentives to relocate its headquarters to the Southbank under a proposal from the Downtown Investment Authority.

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Industry measures indicate that the 650 jobs need about 130,000 square feet of office space and the additional 150 would need 30,000 square feet, based on 200 square feet per employee.

That means Project Blue Sky would look for at least 160,000 square feet of office space.

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While no location was identified, one Southbank building that could accommodate the size is 701 San Marco, the former Prudential building at 701 San Marco Blvd.

The 701sanmarco.com site says the property is “the perfect headquarters opportunity” with up to 170,000 square feet of space available.

Full article: https://www.jaxdailyrecord.com/news/2024/oct/09/haskell-matches-project-blue-sky-the-downtown-hq-relocating-to-the-southbank/

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This could end up being a great win for Jax, if it leads to the redevelopment of the existing Haskell property. Move Haskell over to Prudential to backfill a vacant building, then get rid of Haskell's suburban building/site and replace it with something more similar to One Riverside.

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Just be careful we don’t trade a suburban office building for a suburban apartment building.

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It would be nice if we could redevelop the Haskell property plus the vacant lot between Haskell and the YMCA

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Haskell doesn’t fully own the building 111 riverside ave llc does haskell was just leasing it back and since haskell built that office building I don’t think it’s coming down especially when there is a garage underneath it and the front should remain intact no cutting any of those trees down especially McCoy’s creek in Brooklyn for a walkway that is now a natural looking creek should remain that way planting new trees like those takes decades to be that size try 40 to 60 years thats a good chunk of your lifespan on earth. Lot next to haskell can be built just comform the building around the trees make a interesting building instead of cutting it down for a concrete jungle to put in new trees that takes decades to grow big. Just like gateway jax parcel n4 and n8 they could’ve built around those trees and made a small pocket park and had bunch of taller buildings around them instead of cutting them for a large building and just split up the building.
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Part of why the green Prudential Building is now available is because HD Supply downsized and then moved to the Avenues a few months ago.  Prudential also vacated their space a few years ago.  I believe the major tenant remaining in that building is the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers.

Haskell's property was originally master planned to have, as I recall, two more buildings, each coming off as perpendicular to each end of the existing riverfront building.  Kind of surprised they wouldn't push to build one or both of those if they wanted more space.  Maybe they are concerned about resilience to the river flooding although I think their building is reasonably elevated.  They may have a parking issue too given any expansion requirements. 

The building appears to be well taken care of so I would think it would amount to Class A office if put back on the market for that purpose.  Would be great for an existing company in town in the burbs to relocate to.

FYI, Haskell's prior building in the 1970's and earlier was the multistory building, now painted black with a Jax/Florida mural around the top, along side I-95 at the west foot of the Fuller Warren Bridge.

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Update on this:

https://www.jaxdailyrecord.com/news/2024/nov/21/revised-incentives-package-for-project-blue-sky-clears-dia-board/

All of what the article says makes sense, and it could pave the way to redevelop the Haskell building. That said, some interesting tidbits on the website for the Prudential Building:

https://www.701sanmarco.com/

It looks like the site isn't entirely done as multiple links don't work, but here's an interesting blurb in the section entitled, "Reimagined":

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Form and function merge to provide users a best-in-class experience. A curated artists program will elevate the common space and re-energize the streetscape, while a chef-driven food hall concept will feature local specialties. Along with a state-of-the-art fitness facility, 701 San Marco nourishes the mind, body, and soul.

If there's any location with potential to redevelop to drive Southbank improvements, it's this building. Seriously, I know the 1980's was a different time, but boy did KBJ really know how to horrifically design a ground level for an office building. The smaller building is absolutely awful, with zero street level activity. It doesn't even have a front door - you can only access it from the larger building, which does have doors into the office on 3 sides but aside from that it's only slightly less dreadful.

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Glad to see the private sector seeing a demand (i.e. food hall) and seeking to fill it through the remake of an existing underutilized space. COJ and the DIA don't have to faciliate development on every little thing (i.e. food hall in Shipyards Park, etc.). The building is horribly designed, but I recall the ground floor in the main building being pretty open with transparent glazing. At one point it did have a restaurant/deli and a gift shop of some sort. A food hall will pump some life into that area of the Southbank and Friendship Fountain.
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Follow up on the discussion regarding 701 San Marco. USACE may be on the move out of downtown as GSA terminated the Jacksonville District’s lease without warning. We were given notice last week and it looks like word has made its way to the media now.
https://www.actionnewsjax.com/news/local/doge-lease-cancellations-relocate-800-army-corps-employees-out-southbank-office-building/RMSZ3TUXONAJ7MBKWKMI26ADHI/

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Wasn't the Southbank within the search area for Citizens? With the USACOE space becoming available, would that be a possibility? Is the Southbank more acceptable to the Citizens brass and employees?

Is there space in existing GSA/DOD-owned building for the Engineers? Or, will they fit into a vacant toll booth after TruMuskp gets through dismantling the military and government?
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Wasn't the Southbank within the search area for Citizens? With the USACOE space becoming available, would that be a possibility? Is the Southbank more acceptable to the Citizens brass and employees?

The green glass "Prudential" building has now lost Prudential, HD Supply (formerly Interline) and the Army Corps.  Building has to be close to empty, all within a short time.   

HD Supply moved for some of the same reasons Citizens wants to move... their employees had to park blocks away and didn't like the walk, especially during dark hours.  That building doesn't have enough close by parking for its size.  As such, I would be surprised if Citizens would consider it.

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Is there space in existing GSA/DOD-owned building for the Engineers? Or, will they fit into a vacant toll booth after TruMuskp gets through dismantling the military and government?

Nothing is certain, but apparently there is not. The Jacksonville District explored other options before signing a new 5 year lease in Prudential Bldg. last year. There’s the Federal Building on Bay St, which houses the IRS, or the Federal Courthouse. Neither apparently have room to accommodate the district as it stands. Post-RIF, the district may have less than the 800 employees it has now, so this could also just be a play for GSA to negotiate new terms and less space. Other USACE districts had their leases terminated as well, such as Charleston and Chicago. So is this something bigger like a re-org? Who knows.

Interesting tidbit though, the newly formed Caribbean District also has a lease in the Prudential Bldg and that wasn’t canceled because it’s not through GSA. However, there’s probably 50 employees or less there while the rest are located at the main HQ in San Juan, PR.

I can confirm that parking was a nuisance pre-COVID when the building was full. The garage itself is poorly designed and small, and the offsite lot was on Prudential Drive behind the BP. You would either have to walk from there to the building (through Treaty Oak Park and dodging the homeless) or take the shuttle they provided. The city did put up traffic crossings and warning lights to make it a more pedestrian friendly walk at least.
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Wasn't the Southbank within the search area for Citizens? With the USACOE space becoming available, would that be a possibility? Is the Southbank more acceptable to the Citizens brass and employees?

The green glass "Prudential" building has now lost Prudential, HD Supply (formerly Interline) and the Army Corps.  Building has to be close to empty, all within a short time.   

HD Supply moved for some of the same reasons Citizens wants to move... their employees had to park blocks away and didn't like the walk, especially during dark hours.  That building doesn't have enough close by parking for its size.  As such, I would be surprised if Citizens would consider it.

Prior to this, 247k square feet of 706k square feet were vacant. Not sure how many square feet ACOE had there, but imagine that would make the building at least 50% vacant.

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Hmmm ... I must have forgot to his "Post" earlier

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Interesting tidbit though, the newly formed Caribbean District also has a lease in the Prudential Bldg and that wasn’t canceled because it’s not through GSA. However, there’s probably 50 employees or less there while the rest are located at the main HQ in San Juan, PR.


Could the Corps follow the example of the its Caribbean District and directly lease the space, bypassing GSA?

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Possibly, not sure how the Caribbean District got a non-GSA lease even. But also another update, looks like GSA is trying to dispose of the federal building now too. It houses the IRS, Dept. of Labor, HUD and other smaller agencies.

https://www.gsa.gov/real-estate/real-estate-services/real-property-disposition/noncore-property-list