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Re: Downtown Development Update: What's rising, what's delayed
« Reply #60 on: April 17, 2025, 04:23:39 PM »
I believe the swap would be for two development pads....east and west of the Main Street Bridge. I'm not opposed to a land swap but can see how someone else who wants the land or a deal would be against it.
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Re: Downtown Development Update: What's rising, what's delayed
« Reply #61 on: April 17, 2025, 09:25:54 PM »
I believe the swap would be for two development pads....east and west of the Main Street Bridge. I'm not opposed to a land swap but can see how someone else who wants the land or a deal would be against it.

Totally see how other developers could be against it, but still seems like a reasonably fair proposal to me.

I might be wrong, but I was under the impression that the East development pad would almost be treated like an incentive/completion grant for the West pad, versus an outright gift.

From my understanding:

1) Once development of the West pad is complete, Gateway would have an exclusive option to acquire the East pad at market or reduced rate. The option would have an expiration date, and if the pad wasn't developed within five years, they'd lose it.

2) What is also interesting to me is that, in the agreement, Gateway would assume the costs of demolition for the Main Street Bridge ramps going over the East property.

A few other notes:

- Gateway estimates that room taxes and HOA fees rendered for the tower could pump $300,000 a year into a programming and maintenance fund for Riverfront Plaza park. Assuming that NOT choosing Gateway Jax pushes the project back five years, which feels like it might even be conservative given our track record with riverfront RFPs, that's $1.5 million in cost savings alone right there.

- Further, I'd LOVE for someone to do an economic impact study laying out the cost of building out Phase 2 of Riverfront Plaza & the private development simultaneously vs. building out Phase 2 of the park, and then closing the east end of the park for two years for construction of the private development.
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Re: Downtown Development Update: What's rising, what's delayed
« Reply #62 on: April 17, 2025, 11:10:15 PM »
I drove past Pearl Street earlier today. They appear to be on the second floor of that one now! I'm confident Gateway would get both of those parcels done. Obviously, there's some haters out there. But whatever, let's get this stuff done.
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Re: Downtown Development Update: What's rising, what's delayed
« Reply #63 on: April 18, 2025, 10:18:30 AM »
1) Once development of the West pad is complete, Gateway would have an exclusive option to acquire the East pad at market or reduced rate. The option would have an expiration date, and if the pad wasn't developed within five years, they'd lose it.

2) What is also interesting to me is that, in the agreement, Gateway would assume the costs of demolition for the Main Street Bridge ramps going over the East property.


I assume the use of the plural "ramps" is a typo, and only the ramp toward Newnan Street will be removed when the East Parcel is developed. I can't see the Ocean Street ramp being removed, as that would leave nowhere for northbound traffic to go. FDOT does not have the reconfiguration of Main Street to 2-way in their budget.

Will development of the East parking lot (between the Main Street Bridge and the Hyatt) be part of Phase 2 of the Riverfront Plaza project? The potential of offering Parcel 2 to Gateway as an incentive for completion of Parcel 1 implies to me that it will not be simultaneous with developing the Plaza west of the bridge. If so, will it continue to be a parking lot, or will it be a staging area for work to the west? And that means all access to the parking lot will be via Coastline Drive.

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Re: Downtown Development Update: What's rising, what's delayed
« Reply #64 on: April 18, 2025, 11:26:57 AM »
I drove past Pearl Street earlier today. They appear to be on the second floor of that one now! I'm confident Gateway would get both of those parcels done. Obviously, there's some haters out there. But whatever, let's get this stuff done.
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Re: Downtown Development Update: What's rising, what's delayed
« Reply #65 on: May 15, 2025, 11:56:10 PM »
The second building in Pearl Square is set to break ground this month

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Groundbreaking is scheduled for the second project in the Gateway Jax development in Downtown Jacksonville.

The Gateway Jax partnership announced May 15 that work would begin May 29 on 425 Beaver Street, a mixed-use building that will include 286 multifamily units, nearly 20,000 square feet of retail space and a parking garage.

https://www.jaxdailyrecord.com/news/2025/may/15/groundbreaking-for-second-gateway-jax-project-set-for-may-29/

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Re: Downtown Development Update: What's rising, what's delayed
« Reply #66 on: May 16, 2025, 12:40:52 AM »
Wow groundbreaking was supposed to happen back in April. I guess uf campus is moving slow too

The UF logo could go up as soon as this year on an existing office building on West Bay Street that would be the starting point for the campus. The construction of new campus buildings would have its first grand opening by 2030 or 2031, a second building would open by 2035 and other work does not have any specific dates.

The city would give a 2.36 acre parcel and a 1.22 acre parcel to UF this year for the buildings.
After getting the property, UF would have 24 to 30 months to start construction on the larger parcel and another three years to finish it, according to a memo by Downtown Investment Authority CEO Lori Boyer summarizing the agreement. That would put the grand opening of that building in 2030 or 2031.
UF would have up to seven years to begin construction on the second parcel and would have to finish that building by 2035.
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Re: Downtown Development Update: What's rising, what's delayed
« Reply #67 on: May 16, 2025, 08:16:25 PM »
I wouldn't get overly concerned about a groundbreaking being delayed a month...

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Re: Downtown Development Update: What's rising, what's delayed
« Reply #68 on: May 16, 2025, 09:21:16 PM »
Yeah. They are actually moving pretty quick. The Trio would have been done a decade ago if it moved at the same speed.
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Re: Downtown Development Update: What's rising, what's delayed
« Reply #69 on: Yesterday at 03:14:41 PM »
Maybe someone should talk Moll/Gateway into taking on the Trio? But he's got so much on his plate right now, but, it appears that Moll/Gateway can more than walk and chew gum. I applaud and am proud of what Moll/Gateway are doing at this juncture (Pearl Street Square); now, they also need to work on the pad on the old Landing site (I hope they come up with something more appealing and taller), and that smaller piece of land to the east of the Landing site. We'll see what happens. But...I am overly pleased and proud of Moll/Gateway.
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