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Re: Memorial Park Balustrades Destroyed Again
« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2023, 09:46:25 PM »
Spend the damn money to get those balustrades back - money well spent.  Let's hold city accountable to timeline.  There has got to be a better way to install them to prevent them from lifting up and getting destroyed every time we have a storm event.  I hate throwing around one of the most obnoxious buzzwords everyone is using now, but we should definitely be considering "resiliency" in the damn installation of these things.
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Re: Memorial Park Balustrades Destroyed Again
« Reply #2 on: August 31, 2023, 12:14:52 AM »
Looking at pictures on the Times-Union site, I was surprised to see broken balustrades that didn't appear to be reinforced with rebar.  Looked to just be poured cement or whatever.  I would think using rebar would both strengthen the balustrades and could be used to securely tie them to the bulkhead below and railing above.  Not sure that would solve all problems but I would think it might go a long way to raising the bar (no pun intended  ;D) as to what it would take to knock them out.

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Re: Memorial Park Balustrades Destroyed Again
« Reply #3 on: August 31, 2023, 08:54:59 AM »
Something is amiss. I get why they failed during Irma. But, prior to Irma those balustrades absorbed hits like yesterday MANY times and didn't fail.

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Re: Memorial Park Balustrades Destroyed Again
« Reply #4 on: August 31, 2023, 10:02:13 AM »
Something is amiss. I get why they failed during Irma. But, prior to Irma those balustrades absorbed hits like yesterday MANY times and didn't fail.

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Re: Memorial Park Balustrades Destroyed Again
« Reply #5 on: August 31, 2023, 11:17:46 AM »
Looking at pictures on the Times-Union site, I was surprised to see broken balustrades that didn't appear to be reinforced with rebar.  Looked to just be poured cement or whatever.  I would think using rebar would both strengthen the balustrades and could be used to securely tie them to the bulkhead below and railing above.  Not sure that would solve all problems but I would think it might go a long way to raising the bar (no pun intended  ;D) as to what it would take to knock them out.

I noticed the same thing. Seems like these things are just individual pieces of poured concrete resting on small footers with nothing really tying them in.

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Re: Memorial Park Balustrades Destroyed Again
« Reply #6 on: August 31, 2023, 11:50:47 AM »
Looking at pictures on the Times-Union site, I was surprised to see broken balustrades that didn't appear to be reinforced with rebar.  Looked to just be poured cement or whatever.  I would think using rebar would both strengthen the balustrades and could be used to securely tie them to the bulkhead below and railing above.  Not sure that would solve all problems but I would think it might go a long way to raising the bar (no pun intended  ;D) as to what it would take to knock them out.

I noticed the same thing. Seems like these things are just individual pieces of poured concrete resting on small footers with nothing really tying them in.

Crazy Right? Looks like literally 0 rebar from the images lol.

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Re: Memorial Park Balustrades Destroyed Again
« Reply #7 on: August 31, 2023, 11:57:23 AM »
Looking at pictures on the Times-Union site, I was surprised to see broken balustrades that didn't appear to be reinforced with rebar.  Looked to just be poured cement or whatever.  I would think using rebar would both strengthen the balustrades and could be used to securely tie them to the bulkhead below and railing above.  Not sure that would solve all problems but I would think it might go a long way to raising the bar (no pun intended  ;D) as to what it would take to knock them out.

If I remember correctly, this was intentional - such that pieces could break off and easily be replaced. Hope I'm right...and let's see how long it takes.

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Re: Memorial Park Balustrades Destroyed Again
« Reply #8 on: August 31, 2023, 12:11:50 PM »
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Re: Memorial Park Balustrades Destroyed Again
« Reply #9 on: August 31, 2023, 01:47:04 PM »
Looking at pictures on the Times-Union site, I was surprised to see broken balustrades that didn't appear to be reinforced with rebar.  Looked to just be poured cement or whatever.  I would think using rebar would both strengthen the balustrades and could be used to securely tie them to the bulkhead below and railing above.  Not sure that would solve all problems but I would think it might go a long way to raising the bar (no pun intended  ;D) as to what it would take to knock them out.

If I remember correctly, this was intentional - such that pieces could break off and easily be replaced. Hope I'm right...and let's see how long it takes.

That's interesting. I'm cool with the idea as long as its cheap!

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Re: Memorial Park Balustrades Destroyed Again
« Reply #10 on: September 01, 2023, 04:38:37 PM »
Looking at pictures on the Times-Union site, I was surprised to see broken balustrades that didn't appear to be reinforced with rebar.  Looked to just be poured cement or whatever.  I would think using rebar would both strengthen the balustrades and could be used to securely tie them to the bulkhead below and railing above.  Not sure that would solve all problems but I would think it might go a long way to raising the bar (no pun intended  ;D) as to what it would take to knock them out.

If I remember correctly, this was intentional - such that pieces could break off and easily be replaced. Hope I'm right...and let's see how long it takes.

That's interesting. I'm cool with the idea as long as its cheap!

Lol... I'm sure we will find out in 5 short years...  ::) :o
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Re: Memorial Park Balustrades Destroyed Again
« Reply #11 on: September 16, 2023, 09:58:50 PM »
Give the place a break.
Ok- the latest construction fell down.
That’s what can happen.
I wonder what the cost will be?
City response noted here week by week request?
What does the City involvement entail??
Why not profile City response particulars here?

A couple of blocks away a parking garage collapsed.
Why even have a multiple story parking garage…. “ Demand”?

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Re: Memorial Park Balustrades Destroyed Again
« Reply #12 on: September 17, 2023, 11:07:47 AM »
Give the place a break.
Ok- the latest construction fell down.
That’s what can happen.
I wonder what the cost will be?
City response noted here week by week request?
What does the City involvement entail??
Why not profile City response particulars here?

A couple of blocks away a parking garage collapsed.
Why even have a multiple story parking garage…. “ Demand”?


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Re: Memorial Park Balustrades Destroyed Again
« Reply #13 on: September 17, 2023, 07:59:56 PM »
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Re: Memorial Park Balustrades Destroyed Again
« Reply #14 on: September 18, 2023, 12:57:20 AM »
Give the place a break.
Ok- the latest construction fell down.
That’s what can happen.
I wonder what the cost will be?
City response noted here week by week request?
What does the City involvement entail??
Why not profile City response particulars here?

A couple of blocks away a parking garage collapsed.
Why even have a multiple story parking garage…. “ Demand”?



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