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Tacachale

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« Reply #15 on: May 18, 2023, 01:02:12 PM »
I've been pretty vocal about the Confederate monuments, but I never cared about most of the other statues, names, etc. The issue is that Confederate stuff is exclusively a product of Jim Crow. It has little to do with the Civil War; they were all established decades after the war specifically to celebrate the Confederate myth as a symbol of segregation and repression. Regardless of what anyone thinks about them, or how artistically valuable they are, that's their real history.

This is different than most other commemorations. Those are largely put up because the subject had some actual significance, generally local significance. I'm not interested in going on a crusade to rid the city of mentions of every ostensible bad guy from history, and I doubt many other people are either. Andrew Jackson is a bit different as his legacy is so horrible. But even there, we don't have schools and statues dedicated to him because he was horrible, we have them because he's who the city was named after.
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Ken_FSU

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« Reply #16 on: May 22, 2023, 12:48:18 PM »
I’m so confused about what’s going on at JWJ.

It sure looks like (and sounds like) the fountains are being ripped out entirely.



Charles Hunter

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« Reply #17 on: May 22, 2023, 01:28:35 PM »
Aren't there renovation plans available to the public?

Ken_FSU

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« Reply #18 on: May 22, 2023, 04:14:38 PM »
Aren't there renovation plans available to the public?

I've heard so many conflicting things.

Fountains are being repaired vs. fountains are being ripped out.

Park design is in progress vs. park design is complete.

Even the park staff seem confused.

Crazy that nothing has been directly communicated to the public about the closure of a major downtown park/plaza.

jaxlongtimer

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« Reply #19 on: May 22, 2023, 05:33:26 PM »
^ Wouldn't plans for this be public record via the bidding process, if not elsewhere?

Charles Hunter

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« Reply #20 on: May 22, 2023, 05:36:34 PM »
Great planning, but typical, James Weldon Johnson Park, Friendship Park, and Lenny's Lawn will all be closed for construction at the same time. Perhaps the Fountain will open in July (but not for the Independence Day fireworks and festivities), but when will Phase 2 start?

Jax_Developer

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« Reply #21 on: May 22, 2023, 05:43:36 PM »
^ Wouldn't plans for this be public record via the bidding process, if not elsewhere?

Could the plans have been BID by the committee's given oversight of the projects? (If within their own funds?) Given it's smaller size? That is odd.

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« Reply #22 on: May 22, 2023, 10:19:51 PM »
Perhaps the journalism arm of The Jaxson could pursue the search for plans.

And while they're at it, plans for the Latham project at the beach.

Ken_FSU

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« Reply #23 on: May 24, 2023, 02:36:51 PM »
Fountain that’s been there since before Reagan was elected now totally gone.



Wild that the city has essentially closed JWJ, the oldest and most historic park in the city, with no public notice or details.


Jax_Developer

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« Reply #24 on: May 24, 2023, 03:37:54 PM »
https://jamesweldonjohnsonpark.org/news/fojwjpk-strategic-plan/

From 7/2022 but kind of interesting language used. Almost implied they have control over the future of the site. Not sure if anyone attended these or know anything more recent than this, but thought this was kind of interesting.. and I'm guessing where to start for answers.

jaxlongtimer

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« Reply #25 on: May 24, 2023, 09:52:32 PM »
^ I surfed their website reasonably well and not only did not find any outcome of their "strategic plan" posted but also no mention whatsoever of substantial construction going on at the park even though they have a page devoted to "news." 

Further, it looks like they have scheduled events almost daily with no mention of interference from construction.  Wonder how the jazz festival crowd will impact the area this weekend.

While it may be a nonprofit responsible for the park, as a public property they should still have to share better what they are up to.  I notice their board includes at least one public official, the head of parks.

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« Reply #26 on: May 26, 2023, 09:25:46 AM »
I guess someone needs to post something on Twitter and have the usual Jaxpol reporters promote it. Seems to be the only way to get answers about anything being done locally in this city.

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« Reply #27 on: May 26, 2023, 09:36:32 AM »
https://www.jaxdailyrecord.com/news/2022/jul/27/nonprofit-group-completes-plan-for-james-weldon-johnson-park/

Perhaps a follow up with Mike Mendenhall if anyone knows of how to reach him. He reported on the same press release back in 2022.

I have a feeling that the grant that was given to this organization is paying for the renovation, and where ever that grant was given (I can't find it) probably has the plans & overall project. For those more savvy at grant finding, maybe that's how to find it online.

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« Reply #28 on: July 06, 2023, 01:07:41 PM »
Has anyone seen a plan yet by any chance?

I continue to be dumbfounded by this one.

The most scenic part of the existing park/plaza, the fountains and planters, were ripped out, filled in, and replaced with sod surrounded by chain-linked fence.


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« Reply #29 on: July 06, 2023, 03:17:08 PM »
Has anyone seen a plan yet by any chance?

I continue to be dumbfounded by this one.

The most scenic part of the existing park/plaza, the fountains and planters, were ripped out, filled in, and replaced with sod surrounded by chain-linked fence.



I have been told there will be an opportunity for the public to contribute to the long-term vision very soon. The current changes fit with the general vision that was developed a few years ago.