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JPalmer

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Re: Will Russia invade Ukraine?
« Reply #255 on: February 27, 2023, 01:40:32 PM »
Quote from: Tacachale on February 27, 2023, 12:16:44 PM
Quote from: JPalmer on February 27, 2023, 09:13:27 AM
No, the only people who are finding new lows are the progressive left who have abandoned any semblance of an anti-war faction.  I couldn't give two craps about Trump and him losing an election.  However, I bet you keep a picture of Liz Cheney's dad in your wallet, because those are clearly your people.

This little screed literally could have come verbatim from some of the left wing enablers of Putin. The horseshoe theory at work.

Anyone who's really against war and escalation should be celebrating the defense of Ukraine. For pennies on the dollar, NATO is containing one the single most dangerous regimes on the planet and kept them from invading further countries, which absolutely was coming next and absolutely would have led to a full blown war with NATO.

Your ideology of us being the "good guys" is the naivety that politicians love...
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Re: Will Russia invade Ukraine?
« Reply #256 on: February 27, 2023, 02:45:56 PM »
Quote from: JPalmer on February 27, 2023, 01:40:32 PM
Quote from: Tacachale on February 27, 2023, 12:16:44 PM
Quote from: JPalmer on February 27, 2023, 09:13:27 AM
No, the only people who are finding new lows are the progressive left who have abandoned any semblance of an anti-war faction.  I couldn't give two craps about Trump and him losing an election.  However, I bet you keep a picture of Liz Cheney's dad in your wallet, because those are clearly your people.

This little screed literally could have come verbatim from some of the left wing enablers of Putin. The horseshoe theory at work.

Anyone who's really against war and escalation should be celebrating the defense of Ukraine. For pennies on the dollar, NATO is containing one the single most dangerous regimes on the planet and kept them from invading further countries, which absolutely was coming next and absolutely would have led to a full blown war with NATO.

Your ideology of us being the "good guys" is the naivety that politicians love...

Your ideology of Russia being the good guy is the naivete that dictators love.
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Re: Will Russia invade Ukraine?
« Reply #257 on: February 27, 2023, 03:02:13 PM »
Russia is far from perfect but eliminating "dictators" and disrupting trade between two sovereign nations in none of our business.  Unless of course War is our business.
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Re: Will Russia invade Ukraine?
« Reply #258 on: February 27, 2023, 04:57:13 PM »
Ok... I  see.  We are just drawing lines in different places.  I  prefer that we stop Russian aggression in Ukraine... where  you prefer to wait until they attack...who?  Poland?  Latvia? Estonia? Lithuania? Moldova?

Sweden and Finland saw the light... it's about time for you to see it also.
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Re: Will Russia invade Ukraine?
« Reply #259 on: February 27, 2023, 05:09:30 PM »
I must add... since you seem to give super power dictators and totalitarian governments free passes to attack neighbors... China will soon attack,  or employ a total embargo, or otherwise blackmail Taiwan. Are you OK with that also?  Japan, South Korea, Australia, and Philippines have finally seen the light... where do you stand with regards to this?
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Re: Will Russia invade Ukraine?
« Reply #260 on: February 27, 2023, 05:40:19 PM »
Quote from: BridgeTroll on February 27, 2023, 01:06:46 PM
You mean Dick Cheney?  Old school Reagan republican?  You bet... and his daughter is a freaking hero in my book...
I didn't care for birdshot Dick, but his daughter is a hero in my book as well.
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Re: Will Russia invade Ukraine?
« Reply #261 on: February 27, 2023, 06:14:55 PM »
Quote from: Snaketoz on February 27, 2023, 05:40:19 PM
Quote from: BridgeTroll on February 27, 2023, 01:06:46 PM
You mean Dick Cheney?  Old school Reagan republican?  You bet... and his daughter is a freaking hero in my book...
I didn't care for birdshot Dick, but his daughter is a hero in my book as well.
Like any politician...Dick had a wart or two... but... he was an old school republican which this country sorely lacks... these wannabe republican Trumplicans are poison on this country...
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Re: Will Russia invade Ukraine?
« Reply #262 on: February 27, 2023, 06:16:48 PM »
We already occupied the Philippines, Japan, Korea, Vietnam…You are either ignorant or an enabler, or both.  We are also occupying Syria at this very moment in order to disrupt their alternative route to transport oil.  You keep telling me what Russia and China are going to do, and completely ignoring everything we have already done.
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Re: Will Russia invade Ukraine?
« Reply #263 on: February 27, 2023, 06:20:52 PM »
Quote from: BridgeTroll on February 27, 2023, 06:14:55 PM
Quote from: Snaketoz on February 27, 2023, 05:40:19 PM
Quote from: BridgeTroll on February 27, 2023, 01:06:46 PM
You mean Dick Cheney?  Old school Reagan republican?  You bet... and his daughter is a freaking hero in my book...
I didn't care for birdshot Dick, but his daughter is a hero in my book as well.
Like any politician...Dick had a wart or two... but... he was an old school republican which this country sorely lacks... these wannabe republican Trumplicans are poison on this country...

Dick has more warts than an HPV patient…please
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Re: Will Russia invade Ukraine?
« Reply #264 on: February 27, 2023, 06:23:47 PM »
We aren't "occupying" any of those countries... we are allied with them and have troops stationed at their invitation... pretty sure Ukraine did not invite russia... especially with bombs, cruise missiles, tanks etc to kill their people... your repetitive false equivalents are very tired...
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Re: Will Russia invade Ukraine?
« Reply #265 on: February 27, 2023, 06:31:41 PM »
We absolutely are occupying those countries, which lets me know you are in fact ignorant to passive aggressive behavior.  I can only assume at this point you work or worked for the navy and you will never be anything other than a company man and that’s fine. I’ll stop clicking on your posts. Not worth the time arguing with an ardent nationalist and imperialist
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Re: Will Russia invade Ukraine?
« Reply #266 on: February 27, 2023, 07:00:07 PM »
Yep... career navy... a commitment that you can never understand...

Goodbye...
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Re: Will Russia invade Ukraine?
« Reply #267 on: February 27, 2023, 07:09:53 PM »
Now we can get back on topic. My apologies for the deviation...

https://www.cnn.com/2023/02/26/europe/moldova-transnistria-russia-tensions-explainer-intl/index.html

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What is Russia planning?
Despite Moscow’s pleas of innocence, its actions regarding Moldova bear a striking resemblance to moves it made ahead of its annexation of Crimea in 2014, and its full-scale invasion of Ukraine last year.
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In a boat at sea one of the men began to bore a hole in the bottom of the boat. On being remonstrating with, he answered, "I am only boring under my own seat." "Yes," said his companions, "but when the sea rushes in we shall all be drowned with you."

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Re: Will Russia invade Ukraine?
« Reply #268 on: February 27, 2023, 07:12:01 PM »
BridgeTroll, how will you ever manage to exist without your buddy JPalmer to keep you advised of all your flawed thinking?  :o 

I hope you can get past this devastating news.

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Re: Will Russia invade Ukraine?
« Reply #269 on: February 27, 2023, 07:47:48 PM »
BT, When you first started this thread, I posted an old adage, "the first victim in any war is the truth".  I stand by that post.  I keep reading and watching videos of so many Ukraine victories.  They maybe true, but thoughts of VietNam comes back to me- the news in the states of so many victories over the Viet Cong and N. Vietnam.  Many told of the thousands killed by B52 strikes and in skirmishes in that country.  Many named my brigade that was involved.  We would shake our heads and realize the truth at home wasn't being told.  We would go to areas bombed by B52s and find no evidence of any enemy deaths or having been there.  I hope we aren't getting the same type news about Ukraine.  I firmly believe it is better that we spend money on helping arm Ukraine, and it's a lot cheaper than sending our troops there.  We are getting a bargain.  Just hope we don't wake up one day with Russia victorious and finding out we were getting bogus reports.
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