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Re: Will Russia invade Ukraine?
« Reply #225 on: February 18, 2023, 01:05:30 PM »
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Russian President Vladimir Putin met with Russian Federation Commissioner for Children’s Rights Maria Lvova-Belova on February 16, confirming that the Kremlin is directly involved in facilitating the deportation and adoption of Ukrainian children into Russian families. During an in-person working meeting with Lvova-Belova, Putin stated that the number of applications submitted by Russian citizens for the adoption of children from Donetsk, Luhansk, Zaporizhia, and Kherson oblasts is growing significantly.

https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-february-16-2023

That’s insane and disgusting. This war can’t end soon enough. Russia needs a humiliating defeat.
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Re: Will Russia invade Ukraine?
« Reply #226 on: February 21, 2023, 12:35:16 PM »
Seriously impressed with Bidens trip to Ukraine and his speech in Poland. The Poles know better than anyone except the Baltic states and Ukraine how oppressive and ruthless the Russians are.  The Chinese and North Koreans are no better... the world is still a dangerous place and we should be ready...
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Re: Will Russia invade Ukraine?
« Reply #227 on: February 21, 2023, 12:53:41 PM »
Seriously impressed with Bidens trip to Ukraine and his speech in Poland. The Poles know better than anyone except the Baltic states and Ukraine how oppressive and ruthless the Russians are.  The Chinese and North Koreans are no better... the world is still a dangerous place and we should be ready...

We should be ready for when Russia retaliates for us blowing up the NordStream Pipeline, you really believe we are the good guys?

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Re: Will Russia invade Ukraine?
« Reply #228 on: February 21, 2023, 01:46:32 PM »
Seriously impressed with Bidens trip to Ukraine and his speech in Poland. The Poles know better than anyone except the Baltic states and Ukraine how oppressive and ruthless the Russians are.  The Chinese and North Koreans are no better... the world is still a dangerous place and we should be ready...

We should be ready for when Russia retaliates for us blowing up the NordStream Pipeline, you really believe we are the good guys?
If we did blow it up... no real evidence... I support it...  Let Putin retaliate. It will be his undoing...

I know who the aggressor nation is... I know who invaded who... I know who is kidnapping Ukrainian children... I know who is conducting missile attacks on civilians...

Honestly JPalmer... it doesn't sound like you know very much except what Trump tells you...
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Re: Will Russia invade Ukraine?
« Reply #229 on: February 21, 2023, 01:48:46 PM »
Here is what Alexei Navalny has to say if he could get out of Russian prison and run for president of Russia...

https://theins.ru/en/news/259540

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Navalny publishes key principles of his political platform: return Crimea to Ukraine, pay reparations to Kyiv, and investigate war crimes
20 February 2023 07:15 
In a boat at sea one of the men began to bore a hole in the bottom of the boat. On being remonstrating with, he answered, "I am only boring under my own seat." "Yes," said his companions, "but when the sea rushes in we shall all be drowned with you."

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Re: Will Russia invade Ukraine?
« Reply #230 on: February 21, 2023, 04:49:14 PM »
Here is what Alexei Navalny has to say if he could get out of Russian prison and run for president of Russia...

https://theins.ru/en/news/259540

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Navalny publishes key principles of his political platform: return Crimea to Ukraine, pay reparations to Kyiv, and investigate war crimes
20 February 2023 07:15 

Navalny is not a hero, again, you seem to be confused who is in the wrong with this situation.

https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2013/07/is-aleksei-navalny-a-liberal-or-a-nationalist/278186/

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Re: Will Russia invade Ukraine?
« Reply #231 on: February 21, 2023, 05:06:20 PM »
Here is what Alexei Navalny has to say if he could get out of Russian prison and run for president of Russia...

https://theins.ru/en/news/259540

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Navalny publishes key principles of his political platform: return Crimea to Ukraine, pay reparations to Kyiv, and investigate war crimes
20 February 2023 07:15 

Navalny is not a hero, again, you seem to be confused who is in the wrong with this situation.

https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2013/07/is-aleksei-navalny-a-liberal-or-a-nationalist/278186/
No confusion by me at all. There is virtually NO comparison between Putin and Navalny... your attempt at false equivalency clearly displays your confusion...
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Re: Will Russia invade Ukraine?
« Reply #232 on: February 21, 2023, 10:21:59 PM »
Seriously impressed with Bidens trip to Ukraine and his speech in Poland. The Poles know better than anyone except the Baltic states and Ukraine how oppressive and ruthless the Russians are.  The Chinese and North Koreans are no better... the world is still a dangerous place and we should be ready...

We should be ready for when Russia retaliates for us blowing up the NordStream Pipeline, you really believe we are the good guys?
If we did blow it up... no real evidence... I support it...  Let Putin retaliate. It will be his undoing...

I know who the aggressor nation is... I know who invaded who... I know who is kidnapping Ukrainian children... I know who is conducting missile attacks on civilians...

Honestly JPalmer... it doesn't sound like you know very much except what Trump tells you...

As an aside I had an argument the other day with someone critical of supporting Ukraine from the hard left perspective. It’s amazing that both the MAGA folks and the tankies have essentially the same position on this issue.
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Re: Will Russia invade Ukraine?
« Reply #233 on: February 22, 2023, 06:07:04 AM »
Seriously impressed with Bidens trip to Ukraine and his speech in Poland. The Poles know better than anyone except the Baltic states and Ukraine how oppressive and ruthless the Russians are.  The Chinese and North Koreans are no better... the world is still a dangerous place and we should be ready...

We should be ready for when Russia retaliates for us blowing up the NordStream Pipeline, you really believe we are the good guys?
If we did blow it up... no real evidence... I support it...  Let Putin retaliate. It will be his undoing...

I know who the aggressor nation is... I know who invaded who... I know who is kidnapping Ukrainian children... I know who is conducting missile attacks on civilians...

Honestly JPalmer... it doesn't sound like you know very much except what Trump tells you...

As an aside I had an argument the other day with someone critical of supporting Ukraine from the hard left perspective. It’s amazing that both the MAGA folks and the tankies have essentially the same position on this issue.
I get it from the lefties... kind of reflexive. The Trumplicans are just incredibly misinformed. Actual traditional Republicans and Democrats are in the right place... supporting a budding democracy trying to throw off the yokes of a totalitarian repressive government.
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Re: Will Russia invade Ukraine?
« Reply #234 on: February 24, 2023, 08:05:14 AM »
Belarus and Moldova are next...

https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-february-23-2023

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Russian Offensive Campaign Assessment, February 23, 2023
Feb 23, 2023 - Press ISW

The Kremlin appears to be setting conditions for false flag operations on the Chernihiv Oblast international border and in Moldova ahead of the one-year anniversary of Russia’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine. Ukrainian Northern Operational Command reported on February 23 that Russian forces are preparing possible false flag operations in the international border areas of Chernihiv Oblast. The Ukrainian Northern Operational Command stated that Ukrainian intelligence has already observed Russian convoys with unmarked military equipment and personnel dressed in uniforms resembling those worn by the Ukrainian military move to areas near the Chernihiv Oblast border. The Ukrainian Northern Operational Command stated that the purpose of these false flag operations would be to accuse Ukrainian forces of violating the territorial integrity of an unspecified country, very likely referring to Belarus. The Kremlin may be preparing false flag attacks to coerce Belarus into the war following Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko's February 16 statement that Belarus would only enter the war if attacked by Ukraine. The Belarusian Ministry of Defense also notably claimed on February 21 that Belarusian forces observed a buildup of Ukrainian forces at its borders. ISW continues to assess that Belarusian or Russian attack on northern Ukrainian regions is highly unlikely, but Russia seeks to force Lukashenko’s hand or blame Ukraine for expanding the war to undermine support for Kyiv. Such a false flag operation could also aim to fix Ukrainian forces at the northern border in an effort to weaken Ukrainian defenses in eastern Ukraine and preparations for counter-offensive operations.

The Kremlin also appears to be setting information conditions to stage a false flag operation in occupied Transnistria, Moldova. The Russian Ministry of Defense (MoD) claimed on February 23 that Ukrainian forces are planning to conduct an armed provocation against Transnistria in the near future. The MoD claimed that Ukrainian forces would dress as Russian military personnel and stage an alleged Russian offensive from positions in Transnistria.
In a boat at sea one of the men began to bore a hole in the bottom of the boat. On being remonstrating with, he answered, "I am only boring under my own seat." "Yes," said his companions, "but when the sea rushes in we shall all be drowned with you."

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Re: Will Russia invade Ukraine?
« Reply #235 on: February 24, 2023, 02:24:06 PM »
ISW was founded in response to the stagnation of the Iraq and Afghanistan wars, with core funding provided by a group of defense contractors.  According to a mission statement on its website, ISW aims to provide "real-time, government-independent, and open-source analysis of ongoing military operations and insurgent attacks". ISW currently operates as a nonprofit organization, supported in part by contributions from defense contractors including General Dynamics, DynCorp, and Raytheon. It is headquartered in Washington, D.C.

Sorry, but this "news" source seems to be a propaganda arm of the Military Industrial Complex.   
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Re: Will Russia invade Ukraine?
« Reply #236 on: February 24, 2023, 04:37:50 PM »
ISW was founded in response to the stagnation of the Iraq and Afghanistan wars, with core funding provided by a group of defense contractors.  According to a mission statement on its website, ISW aims to provide "real-time, government-independent, and open-source analysis of ongoing military operations and insurgent attacks". ISW currently operates as a nonprofit organization, supported in part by contributions from defense contractors including General Dynamics, DynCorp, and Raytheon. It is headquartered in Washington, D.C.

Sorry, but this "news" source seems to be a propaganda arm of the Military Industrial Complex.   
Perhaps... but they have been spot on accurate most of the time... and.. when incorrect... they correct themselves. Discounting accurate information is silly... but you seem to gravitate in that direction.

I also very often provide information from various open source analysis groups... ISW is easily the most reliable... I would be happy to read counter conclusion sources that you might provide... I  seriously doubt you will.  The one you provided on Navalny was over a decade old. Perhaps find something recent that is applicable.

The false flag operations referenced in the ISW is SOP for the Russians.... it began in Donbas before the 2014 invasion... it continued in Crimea... Georgia... the Baltic states have seen it... Moldova is likely to see it in an effort to undermine that government.

Again JPalmer...Please feel free to provide accurate and attributable data and sources.  So far you have proven to be utterly incapable of doing so...
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Re: Will Russia invade Ukraine?
« Reply #237 on: February 24, 2023, 06:35:26 PM »
https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/12/17/bellingcat-can-say-what-u-s-intelligence-cant/

Open Source “Journalism” is not journalism. Bellingcat is one of the most well-known mouthpieces of US and UK intelligence agencies. 

I suggest you read Seymour Hersh’s assessment of the NordStream explosion and even furthermore his coverage of Syria

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Re: Will Russia invade Ukraine?
« Reply #238 on: February 24, 2023, 07:24:22 PM »
Also, here is a narrative that hasn’t been brought at all since the invasion of Ukraine by Russia.  We impeached our last president because he knew our $500M was going to a bunch of corrupt politicians under auspicious circumstances. Furthermore why does nobody seem to recall the alleged “Whistleblower” in that impeachment was Ukrainian national who could have been getting paid off for all we know.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Vindman

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Re: Will Russia invade Ukraine?
« Reply #239 on: February 24, 2023, 07:57:47 PM »
Also, you say Putin lacks a sense humanity, please feel free to watch Zelensky’s response to fresh water supplies being cut-off to Ukrainians living in the Crimea peninsula.  Again, this video is Zelensky’s response to fresh water being cut-off to Ukrainians. 

https://www.bitchute.com/video/60XX2vYamykn/