COVID Again Rampant in Jax

[BridgeTroll]

So the update that everyone was eagerly anticipating!

If it's not broken; don't fix it, right?

Well...  not enough anti-bodies present to register, so the test came back negative.  So basically just really fortunate to not have had anything else happen in the interim I guess.

Have appt. with CVS tomorrow.

Hey bro...since no one has bothered to ask...(myself included  ) How are you doing?  Side effects?  Second thoughts?  I hope all is well...

[jaxlongtimer]

I think you meant to say... our surgeon general...

LOL.  Not my general and, surely, not my surgeon.  I have higher standards. 

[Non-RedNeck Westsider]

So the update that everyone was eagerly anticipating!

If it's not broken; don't fix it, right?

Well...  not enough anti-bodies present to register, so the test came back negative.  So basically just really fortunate to not have had anything else happen in the interim I guess.

Have appt. with CVS tomorrow.

Hey bro...since no one has bothered to ask...(myself included  ) How are you doing?  Side effects?  Second thoughts?  I hope all is well...

Some have reached out privately, so I kinda left it there.

Nothing more than a sore arm the next day.

I put enough time and energy into making the decision that second thoughts aren't really a thing. 

The only thing that bugs me even a little is that the antibody test came back negative, which makes me wonder if the first test might have been a false positive considering that the testing was still relatively new.

It also tells me that no one really knows how this virus transmits, because I really haven't done anything remotely above the minimum to keep myself protected.  And in addition to it running through our house then (not sure about actual situation), I've been in contact with people who were infected, or at least claimed to be, with zero regard because of my own circumstance.

So, yeah...  all is well here for now.

[jaxlongtimer]

If I were to base the appointment dased solely on the doctors Covid stance as you have done I would agree with you that he is a poor choice. I disagree with the doctors apparent views regarding the treatment of the virus. I wish I could read the Wall Street articles he published. This would provide a more well rounded set of data than the singular partisan article you posted....

....So... to be clear... If I were picking a Covid Czar... Ladapo would not be my pick.  I don't know if he will be a good surgeon general... I need more information.

Here are some thoughts for you from Nate Monroe on your new Florida surgeon general. FYI, this week the jacksonville.com articles are all free to try out:

https://www.jacksonville.com/story/news/columns/nate-monroe/2021/09/22/monroe-desantis-trades-out-ghost-scott-rivkees-crackpot-joseph-ladapo-new-surgeon-general/5811211001/

You might also search his name in Google News to see the global reaction to this appointment.  The outrage and questioning of DeSantis is widespread.

The real danger is he is associated with numerous conspiracy theories and a spread of gross misinformation.  This will just prolong the dangers of COVID.

Here is a sample of his views.... and the irony at the end with DeSantis saying the "truth" needs to be told while he and his minions do just the opposite.  I stand by my prior commnet that DeSantis comes close to emulating the practices of Nazi propagandists.

Dr. Ladapo has made a name for himself over the course of the pandemic as someone unafraid to buck the consensus of the U.S. medical establishment. He even appeared in a controversial press conference last summer held on the steps of the U.S. Supreme Court by a little-known group called "America's Frontline Doctors, led by a conspiratorial Texas physician named Stella Immanuel, who is best known for suggesting that certain ailments may be caused by sperm from sexual visitations from demons and/or alien DNA.

At the event, more than a dozen medical professionals — some with spurious qualifications — spread a number of misleading claims, including that both zinc and the anti-malarial drug hydroxychloroquine can "cure" COVID-19 and that masks do not slow the spread of the virus.

Dr. Ladapo, wearing a lab coat emblazoned with an "America's Frontline Doctors" logo, spent time at the podium talking about the "unintended consequences" of COVID-19 safety measures, and touted hydroxychloroquine heavily.

"It's not good for Americans to be hearing just one perspective on this," he said.

Twitter, Facebook and YouTube took steps to remove a video of the press conference shared by the right-wing site Breitbart, but by then it was already too late — both former President Donald Trump and his son, Donald Trump Jr., had shared clips from the event, and before long the entire thing had gone viral among conspiracy theory groups dedicated to anti-vaccine and QAnon content.

n the months since, the group has become a favorite among right-wing media outlets for adding a patina of medical credibility to COVID-19 treatments that pundits can pitch as an alternative to vaccination. Since last summer, both Dr. Ladapo and America's Fronline Doctors have moved on to hawking the anti-parasite drug ivermectin as a treatment to COVID-19 — a development that has caused a run on the version of ivermectin used for livestock and led to a significant increase in poison control calls for those who have ingested it. There is little evidence either ivermectin or hydroxychloroquine work as COVID-19 treatments.....

....Ladapo has not announced any new COVID-19 safety measures, though when asked about future actions at Tuesday's press conference DeSantis did offer a hint at what he believed the job should be — saying that his new medical official would tell "the truth."

"Telling the truth is important … and I think that's what Dr. Ladapo understands," DeSantis said. "You've got to tell people the truth, and you've got to let them make decisions."​​

https://www.salon.com/2021/09/22/floridas-new-surgeon-general-dr-joseph-ladapo-has-ties-to-fringe-group-pushing-bogus-cures/

[BridgeTroll]

JLT... I know you are smart enough to understand the difference between an opinion article and an article with actual verifiable facts. The Monroe article is simply a opinion piece. It may contain "truth " but so far I seem to be forced to take the words of the pundits... as all words from Ladapo himself seems to be behind a paywall or erased from the internet. I would love to read an article or paper written by him rather than what reporters are telling me he said or did.

Still looking... BTW... just as DeSantis and Biden are your governor and president... Ladapo is your SG...

[BridgeTroll]

Found one... please read.  This was written by Ladapo early in the infection prior to vaccination availability...

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2020/03/24/coronavirus-shutdowns-worth-public-health-system-unprepared-column/2898324001/

[BridgeTroll]

Here is another. This is a WSJ article  written by Ladapo that wasn't behind a paywall... Yep...he is a fringe Covid researcher promoting ivermectine, hydroxychloroquine, and such.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/too-much-caution-is-killing-covid-patients-11606238928?mod=opinion_lead_pos6

I finally was able to find and see the facts for myself rather than what someone infers or "reports" and came to the conclusion that I do not support our new SG...

[tufsu1]

Update from Israel:

There are about 700 people in serious condition. Of those 450 are unvaccinated, 175 received two shots, and 75 received the booster.

Now adjust for vaccination status, where 20% remain unvaccinated, 35% have two shots, and 45% have three shots...

Unvaccinated people are 4.5x more likely to develop serious illness than those with 2 shots - and 13.5x more likely than those with 3 shots.

And the scales continue tilting - 65% of yesterday's positive cases were among the unvaccinated - and they are only 20% of the population!

[vicupstate]

https://floridapolitics.com/archives/458805-diaz-review-vaccine-mandates/

Florida’s ongoing response to the COVID-19 pandemic will continue to be a major focus during the 2022 Legislative Session for Sen. Manny Diaz, the top Republican shaping health care policy in the upper chamber.

His work could include revisiting existing vaccine requirements long in place in schools, a response to the debate about whether COVID-19 vaccines should also be required.

Diaz, who came down with COVID-19 last winter, said he wants to review the state’s vaccination efforts as well as Gov. Ron DeSantis’ work on getting monoclonal antibody treatments to those who test positive for COVID-19.

[jaxlongtimer]

^ It is bad enough that people are resisting vaccines and masks.  But the changeover from passive resistance to militancy is really beyond the pale.  It is no longer satisfying to resisters to exercise their "freedom" but now they want the rest of us to capitulate to their standards.  I note a restaurant just threw out a couple in Texas who voluntarily wore masks because the restaurant would not serve anyone wearing one.  Just another unnecessary wedge brought to us by Trump & Co.

[jaxlongtimer]

Here is another. This is a WSJ article  written by Ladapo that wasn't behind a paywall... Yep...he is a fringe Covid researcher promoting ivermectine, hydroxychloroquine, and such.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/too-much-caution-is-killing-covid-patients-11606238928?mod=opinion_lead_pos6

I finally was able to find and see the facts for myself rather than what someone infers or "reports" and came to the conclusion that I do not support our new SG...

BridgeTroll, while we may not agree fully on how we process performances and attributes of pubic officials, I am glad you arrived, in this case at least, to the same conclusion I have with respect to this surgeon general.  Best regards.

[BridgeTroll]

No worries. I need to evaluate information unfiltered. I find that pundits and reporters have their own shadings and agendas filtering the news they are supposed to report unbiased. Most are extremely biased and not to be trusted without back checking.

[Snaketoz]

I have a feeling that Florida's new surgeon general will have a very short time in his position.

[Charles Hunter]

I have a feeling that Florida's new surgeon general will have a very short time in his position.

Why? He is exactly what Gov. Desantis wants. He gives "medical expertise" to their unscientific ravings.

[BridgeTroll]

I have a feeling that Florida's new surgeon general will have a very short time in his position.

Why? He is exactly what Gov. Desantis wants. He gives "medical expertise" to their unscientific ravings.

Question:  What would you change of DeSantis Covid policies besides the SG appointment and the school mask mandate issue?