COVID Again Rampant in Jax

[Snaketoz]

I believe non vaccinated people should be thought of as no different than a reckless driver, a drunk driver, or "knockout" people who randomly punch passersby.  Our own JFRD has a low vaccination rate.  How is it ok for a rescue person to give a senior or child covid while transporting them?  Stop thinking of "I, me, myself, etc."  This should be thought of as a weapon.  Assault with a deadly weapon.  We spend millions each year on suicide prevention and helping those thinking of suicide.  Shouldn't we feel the same of innocent people being assaulted with other's Covid?  Our first responders should have no choice as to whether they are vaccinated or not.  Unvaccinated people giving this disease to others should have the same stigma as other assaults.

[Tacachale]

Whatever makes you feel better, I guess.

Myself? Vaxxed and not worried, staying fit and drinking plenty of water. Not else much to be done at this point. You'll never convince the hypothetical anti-vaxxer to get it, so why waste your time wringing hands about those whom you have no control over? Don't come into contact with these people, and if you suspect them being near to you, pop on an N-95 mask to protect yourself!

The real authoritarianism is the state governments coming in and telling local govs, colleges and private businesses what they can and can't do to stop the thread. Mask orders are banned in FL. Businesses can't require proof of a vaccine on their own private property. Local governments have had their hands tied. If you're worried about something being "incredibly authoritarian" look at the state's big government approach to kowtowing to anti-vax voters.

[jaxlongtimer]

Some of y'all are incredibly authoritarian, scarily so.

If you've got your vaccine, feel safe. Stop worrying about what others are doing. Start worrying about yourself.

I am worrying about myself.  With the Delta variant more transmissable and up to 35% or more "breakthrough" infections for the vaccinated, the unvaccinated are definitely a threat to me and my loved ones.  Further, they are taking my or my loved ones' potential spot in a hospital if I need that level of care for a life threatening situation.  Lastly, they are giving the virus millions of opportunities to further mutate into an even more dangerous iteration which could overcome the vaccines and/or immunity currently available starting a whole new pandemic of a worse kind.

Whatever makes you feel better, I guess.

Myself? Vaxxed and not worried, staying fit and drinking plenty of water. Not else much to be done at this point. You'll never convince the hypothetical anti-vaxxer to get it, so why waste your time wringing hands about those whom you have no control over? Don't come into contact with these people, and if you suspect them being near to you, pop on an N-95 mask to protect yourself!

You are naive to think your fellow citizens can't impact your health.  That's what makes it a "pandemic."  Most of us can't avoid all people all the time.  I guess you never leave your house and no one comes to visit you.  Great that you are taking all these steps to reduce your risk but that isn't the whole story. 

As I noted in a prior post, if all else fails, we should at least be mandating vaccines for institutional settings, cruises and those on the front lines with the public.  Our governor thinks otherwise as he won't even allow mask mandates and he continues to hide the data from the public while stating he doesn't see anything unusual happening at this time despite "on the ground" reports from the hospitals to the contrary.  This on top of his ridicule of Fauci and the CDC.  These actions, or lack thereof, certainly don't send a message to the unvaccinated to take this seriously and get the shot.

[Peter Griffin]

You are naive to think your fellow citizens can't impact your health.  That's what makes it a "pandemic."  Most of us can't avoid all people all the time.  I guess you never leave your house and no one comes to visit you.  Great that you are taking all these steps to reduce your risk but that isn't the whole story. 

It's naive to not realize that you can just wear an N-95 and be vaccinated, and you should be able to stand right next to a COVID positive person and reduce your risk on infection via the N-95 mask, and reduce your risk of hospitalization via the vaccine.

I go out and do whatever I want, with no mask, in as close contact with people as I'd like. I would do this with or without the vax.

You now have the power in your hands to go about your business and protect yourself as much as you'd like. Why you feel the need to pontificate that vaccines should be mandatory anywhere is beyond me. The prevailing narrative from the early days of the pandemic no longer applies, you CAN protect YOURSELF now, you do NOT have to rely on others' actions to be safe now. Thank GOODNESS. 

[jaxlongtimer]

You are naive to think your fellow citizens can't impact your health.  That's what makes it a "pandemic."  Most of us can't avoid all people all the time.  I guess you never leave your house and no one comes to visit you.  Great that you are taking all these steps to reduce your risk but that isn't the whole story. 

It's naive to not realize that you can just wear an N-95 and be vaccinated, and you should be able to stand right next to a COVID positive person and reduce your risk on infection via the N-95 mask, and reduce your risk of hospitalization via the vaccine.

I go out and do whatever I want, with no mask, in as close contact with people as I'd like. I would do this with or without the vax.

You now have the power in your hands to go about your business and protect yourself as much as you'd like. Why you feel the need to pontificate that vaccines should be mandatory anywhere is beyond me. The prevailing narrative from the early days of the pandemic no longer applies, you CAN protect YOURSELF now, you do NOT have to rely on others' actions to be safe now. Thank GOODNESS.

And, what's your response to taking up hospital capacity unnecessarily and providing fertile ground for mutations?  To add, who do you think is absorbing all the added medical costs and lost productivity (Hint: You and I via increased insurance premiums, our medicare and other taxes and in the cost of products and services we buy)?

[Lunican]

Kids still aren't vaccinated and the Delta variant is not sparing them like before. Wolfson's Peds ICU is full.

Furthermore, vaccines being mandatory is standard practice.

[Snaketoz]

You are naive to think your fellow citizens can't impact your health.  That's what makes it a "pandemic."  Most of us can't avoid all people all the time.  I guess you never leave your house and no one comes to visit you.  Great that you are taking all these steps to reduce your risk but that isn't the whole story. 

It's naive to not realize that you can just wear an N-95 and be vaccinated, and you should be able to stand right next to a COVID positive person and reduce your risk on infection via the N-95 mask, and reduce your risk of hospitalization via the vaccine.

I go out and do whatever I want, with no mask, in as close contact with people as I'd like. I would do this with or without the vax.

You now have the power in your hands to go about your business and protect yourself as much as you'd like. Why you feel the need to pontificate that vaccines should be mandatory anywhere is beyond me. The prevailing narrative from the early days of the pandemic no longer applies, you CAN protect YOURSELF now, you do NOT have to rely on others' actions to be safe now. Thank GOODNESS.

And you can wear a bullet proof vest to protect oneself from gunshots too, huh?

[Peter Griffin]

And, what's your response to taking up hospital capacity unnecessarily and providing fertile ground for mutations?  To add, who do you think is absorbing all the added medical costs and lost productivity (Hint: You and I via increased insurance premiums, our medicare and other taxes and in the cost of products and services we buy)?

Complete subject change, which is very annoying, but I'll respond. I feel the same about that as I do about people who smoke cigarettes, speed, ride motorcycles without helmets, or eat greasy fatty food with soda and mayo-dipped french fries. I feel that they should be more reponsible with THEIR health so they don't overburden the system and cost society money, and I try to avoid them so I don't deal with the secondary effects of their actions (secondhand smoke, collisions, involuntary manslaughter, and olfactory assault, respectively.)

And you can wear a bullet proof vest to protect oneself from gunshots too, huh?

In some areas (with notably strict gun laws) you almost have to in order to stay safe, yes! But, as you're likely sure, your argument is a clearly false equivalency. People don't spray bullets out of their mouth as they sneeze, you may not even know you're spreading COVID, and of course a gunshot wound is FAR FAR FAR more fatal than a COVID case, so "walking around with COVID" and "spraying bullets in the air" are completely incomparable. Your argument sucks, and this whole thread

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[jaxlongtimer]

And, what's your response to taking up hospital capacity unnecessarily and providing fertile ground for mutations?  To add, who do you think is absorbing all the added medical costs and lost productivity (Hint: You and I via increased insurance premiums, our medicare and other taxes and in the cost of products and services we buy)?

Complete subject change, which is very annoying, but I'll respond. I feel the same about that as I do about people who smoke cigarettes, speed, ride motorcycles without helmets, or eat greasy fatty food with soda and mayo-dipped french fries. I feel that they should be more reponsible with THEIR health so they don't overburden the system and cost society money, and I try to avoid them so I don't deal with the secondary effects of their actions (secondhand smoke, collisions, involuntary manslaughter, and olfactory assault, respectively.)

No change in subject, just more reasons to be concerned about the unvaccinated beyond what you wish to consider.  You are living in a bubble to think "avoidance" of all the people with issues you listed is an adequate measure of your safety unless you are a hermit.  Maybe you are!

Your argument sucks, and this whole thread

SUCKS

SO

MUCH

Maybe, then, you should practice your own medicine and "avoid" this thread as you do all other "threats" to your lifestyle. 

[Lunican]

Jax hospitalizations at all time high.

Lenny Curry press conference: https://youtu.be/bAX_o8PSTrg

[Snaketoz]

And, what's your response to taking up hospital capacity unnecessarily and providing fertile ground for mutations?  To add, who do you think is absorbing all the added medical costs and lost productivity (Hint: You and I via increased insurance premiums, our medicare and other taxes and in the cost of products and services we buy)?

Complete subject change, which is very annoying, but I'll respond. I feel the same about that as I do about people who smoke cigarettes, speed, ride motorcycles without helmets, or eat greasy fatty food with soda and mayo-dipped french fries. I feel that they should be more reponsible with THEIR health so they don't overburden the system and cost society money, and I try to avoid them so I don't deal with the secondary effects of their actions (secondhand smoke, collisions, involuntary manslaughter, and olfactory assault, respectively.)

And you can wear a bullet proof vest to protect oneself from gunshots too, huh?

In some areas (with notably strict gun laws) you almost have to in order to stay safe, yes! But, as you're likely sure, your argument is a clearly false equivalency. People don't spray bullets out of their mouth as they sneeze, you may not even know you're spreading COVID, and of course a gunshot wound is FAR FAR FAR more fatal than a COVID case, so "walking around with COVID" and "spraying bullets in the air" are completely incomparable. Your argument sucks, and this whole thread

SUCKS

SO

MUCH

"I'd rather argue with a hundred idiots, than have one agree with me."

[Tacachale]

And, what's your response to taking up hospital capacity unnecessarily and providing fertile ground for mutations?  To add, who do you think is absorbing all the added medical costs and lost productivity (Hint: You and I via increased insurance premiums, our medicare and other taxes and in the cost of products and services we buy)?

Complete subject change, which is very annoying, but I'll respond. I feel the same about that as I do about people who smoke cigarettes, speed, ride motorcycles without helmets, or eat greasy fatty food with soda and mayo-dipped french fries. I feel that they should be more reponsible with THEIR health so they don't overburden the system and cost society money, and I try to avoid them so I don't deal with the secondary effects of their actions (secondhand smoke, collisions, involuntary manslaughter, and olfactory assault, respectively.)

And you can wear a bullet proof vest to protect oneself from gunshots too, huh?

In some areas (with notably strict gun laws) you almost have to in order to stay safe, yes! But, as you're likely sure, your argument is a clearly false equivalency. People don't spray bullets out of their mouth as they sneeze, you may not even know you're spreading COVID, and of course a gunshot wound is FAR FAR FAR more fatal than a COVID case, so "walking around with COVID" and "spraying bullets in the air" are completely incomparable. Your argument sucks, and this whole thread

SUCKS

SO

MUCH

Feel free to stop posting in the thread anytime.

[vicupstate]

Covid cases nearly triple in two weeks

“Across the U.S., the seven-day rolling average for daily new cases rose over the past two weeks to more than 37,000 on Tuesday, up from less than 13,700 on July 6… Health officials blame the delta variant and slowing vaccination rates. Just 56.2% of Americans have gotten at least one dose of the vaccine, according to the CDC.”

https://apnews.com/article/health-religion-coronavirus-pandemic-michael-brown-dbc0303c3fa13643ca2dc0eb8d806f33

[MusicMan]

We need real leadership in the Governors office, not a failed Trump 'wanna be......'

[BridgeTroll]

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