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Re: COVID Again Rampant in Jax
« Reply #60 on: July 18, 2021, 12:57:43 PM »
Pretty sure Trump just does it out of spite.
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Re: COVID Again Rampant in Jax
« Reply #61 on: July 19, 2021, 05:34:17 PM »
Three weeks ago Jacksonville had less than 100 people hospitalized for covid. Today there are over 600 and rising fast.

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Re: COVID Again Rampant in Jax
« Reply #62 on: July 19, 2021, 05:56:33 PM »
Hope it isn’t bl8jaxnative… he seems to have disappeared
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Re: COVID Again Rampant in Jax
« Reply #63 on: July 19, 2021, 06:01:56 PM »
Hope it isn’t bl8jaxnative… he seems to have disappeared

He was around over the weekend.

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Re: COVID Again Rampant in Jax
« Reply #64 on: July 19, 2021, 10:56:02 PM »
NBC News highlights UF Health - Jacksonville's record for COVID cases:

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JACKSONVILLE, Fla. — With the state's Covid-19 cases roughly doubling each week, Florida has become one of the country's biggest hot spots for the latest surge fueled by the highly contagious delta variant, as well as vaccine skepticism.

UF Health in Jacksonville said it broke its record for most hospitalized Covid patients Monday. At the start of Sunday, the hospital had 86. At one point Monday, the number reached 126, an increase of more than 40 percent in just one day.

"I saw it when it was crazy in January," nurse Sabrina Oetterer said. "And I thought for a while we saw the light at the end of the tunnel with only one Covid-positive patient. And now, there hasn't even been enough time to realize that we're back to where we started."

Florida accounts for a fifth of new infections nationwide.

"We're gaining cases at such a rapid rate we don't really know where it's going to stop," said Chad Neilsen, the hospital's director of infection prevention. "We aren't even thinking a couple of months. We're thinking what's going to immediately happen in the next week."

https://www.nbcnews.com/nightly-news/jacksonville-hospital-breaks-covid-record-amid-latest-florida-surge-n1274402

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Re: COVID Again Rampant in Jax
« Reply #65 on: July 20, 2021, 04:40:47 PM »
Here are a few ideas once the FDA grants full approval:

1. Require vaccine for all military personnel.
2. Require vaccine for domestic air travel, train travel, and cruises.
3. Require vaccine for health insurance coverage of covid related care.
4. Require vaccine for schools.

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Re: COVID Again Rampant in Jax
« Reply #66 on: July 20, 2021, 06:31:14 PM »
No argument from me…

Your “freedom to choose “ ends when you are possibly infecting others…
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Re: COVID Again Rampant in Jax
« Reply #67 on: July 20, 2021, 08:59:32 PM »
The unvaccinated are also holding local hospitals hostage, forcing elective surgeries to be cancelled and creating huge ER wait times. If you don't want a vaccine why would you want everything you're gonna get at the hospital?

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Re: COVID Again Rampant in Jax
« Reply #68 on: July 20, 2021, 11:57:43 PM »
By some reports, Jacksonville is leading most all of the US in this COVID wave.  CNN posted an article tonight with this quote from UF Health's staff:
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"We could be an entire hospital full of Covid in a matter of a month if things don't begin to slow down or vaccinations don't increase," Neilsen said. "We need policymakers at a higher level though to really listen to us. Start doubling down on vaccinations pushes, stop with disinformation campaigns on social media. And really start helping the health care community because we are starting to reach a breaking point across the state."

Staff at one Florida hospital figured they had seen the worst of Covid-19. They may be proven wrong

https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/20/us/florida-hospitals-coronavirus/index.html

Looking back over this thread, it is really outrageous that some posters accused those of us warning of this wave as fear mongers.  It is just plain factual and commonsense that with over half the population unvaccinated, mask mandates banned by the governor (and the governor undermining Fauci's standing), people letting their guard down on social distancing and a variant twice or more contagious that anyone couldn't see this coming.

Now, if any of us have a serious illness requiring attention from a hospital, we are at great risk due to a lack of resources that are devoted to unvaccinated persons.  I don't want anyone denied medical care but, in fairness, the hospitals really should prioritize taking those that are vaccinated with ailments over the unvaccinated with COVID as the latter chose, with few exceptions, to put themselves in this position and the former are victims of those decisions.

I just talked with a highly exposed person (they serve the public) this week who doesn't believe anything positive about the vaccines, feels they haven't gotten it yet so won't likely get it going forward, claims to be in good health (even though they are a chain smoker) and believes COVID is less risky than taking the vaccine and akin to having a cold at worse.  Nothing I could say would get them to waiver from this position.  They appeared to totally tune out anything to the contrary to this position indicating that no matter what info was available supporting getting vaccinated, it wouldn't "reach" them.  They also had no problem risking closing their business (and losing its income) for at least 2 weeks should they get COVID.  If this is typical of many of the unvaccinated (and based on conversations with others, it appears to be a common attitude), mandating vaccines for most activities maybe the only way to push them to get it done as they will have a hard time living daily life otherwise.  Yet, this too, has been opposed by the governor.

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Re: COVID Again Rampant in Jax
« Reply #69 on: July 21, 2021, 07:50:20 AM »
U.S. life expectancy fell by a year and a half in 2020, the largest one-year decline since World War II, the AP reports.

The decrease for both Black Americans and Hispanic Americans was even worse: three years.

https://apnews.com/article/science-health-coronavirus-pandemic-fac0863b8c252d21d6f6a22a2e3eab86

Looking at the chart in the link, this was one of only a small handful of declines since 1943. The other declines have been .2-.3% versus 1.5% in 2020.   
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Re: COVID Again Rampant in Jax
« Reply #70 on: July 21, 2021, 08:38:39 AM »
Some of y'all are incredibly authoritarian, scarily so.

If you've got your vaccine, feel safe. Stop worrying about what others are doing. Start worrying about yourself.

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Re: COVID Again Rampant in Jax
« Reply #71 on: July 21, 2021, 08:50:45 AM »
Some of y'all are incredibly authoritarian, scarily so.

If you've got your vaccine, feel safe. Stop worrying about what others are doing. Start worrying about yourself.

The more people that are unvaccinated, the more likely that new variants will emerge that will be a greater threat and resistant to the vaccine. That is a threat to everyone.

If FOX News and Facebook had been around in the '50's, Polio would still be around today.
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Re: COVID Again Rampant in Jax
« Reply #72 on: July 21, 2021, 08:54:07 AM »
Some of y'all are incredibly authoritarian, scarily so.

If you've got your vaccine, feel safe. Stop worrying about what others are doing. Start worrying about yourself.

Quite a bit of the discussion now is surrounding the possibility of that no longer being the case if this keeps up. Variants are the result of unvaccinated people, and the more variants allowed to exist, the more likely it is that there could be a vaccine-resistant variant that takes us back to square one. On top of that, every unvaccinated patient suffering from COVID in a hospital bed is taking a bed from someone else. Surgeries are being canceled because of the rise in COVID patients.

We don't live in a vacuum, so worrying about ourselves in this case means worrying about other people.
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Re: COVID Again Rampant in Jax
« Reply #73 on: July 21, 2021, 09:18:26 AM »
Whatever makes you feel better, I guess.

Myself? Vaxxed and not worried, staying fit and drinking plenty of water. Not else much to be done at this point. You'll never convince the hypothetical anti-vaxxer to get it, so why waste your time wringing hands about those whom you have no control over? Don't come into contact with these people, and if you suspect them being near to you, pop on an N-95 mask to protect yourself!

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Re: COVID Again Rampant in Jax
« Reply #74 on: July 21, 2021, 10:19:56 AM »
I honestly think a lot of these people are just scared of needles and don't want to admit it.  They are just using this Anti-Authoritarian stance as a cover, but are really just scared of getting a shot or two.