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COVID Again Rampant in Jax
« on: July 07, 2021, 06:57:53 PM »
Our family has spoken to several Jax area doctors and hospital officials in the past 2 weeks and they report our hospitals are seeing big spikes again in COVID cases and admissions, getting to closer to full capacity.  All are cautioning to continue to beware and be careful.  Obviously, getting vaccinated is also highly recommended.

This appears to be due to both the increased transmission of the Delta variant, lower area vaccination rates and the community lowering its guard with respect to masking and other COVID protocols.

The nationwide county map from the CDC for the week ending July 5th (link below) validates this by showing Duval and surrounding counties at or near the top for admissions, cases and transmissions and with lower vaccination rates.  The whole state of Florida doesn't look too hot either compared to most of the rest of the country.

https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#county-view

The added danger is the more COVID spreads the greater the likelihood that more variants are created, not to mention the impact on hospital care for other health issues, a reduced labor force, added costs to the community, increased loss of life, reinstating business restrictions and closures and a possible mandate to return to fully masked and socially distance protocols.

It doesn't help that DeSantis refuses to release State COVID data completely and timely like the rest of the country which tends to downplay or hide the issue at hand.

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Re: COVID Again Rampant in Jax
« Reply #1 on: July 07, 2021, 08:02:40 PM »
Yep!

In the last week, positive test rate in Duval County has been over 11% - more than double the other largest counties in the state.

Baker County is at over 15%.

Cool that bodies are piling up in places like India due to vaccine shortages, but people in Northeast Florida can't be bothered to walk across the street to Publix and get poked because Facebook told them the vaccine would turn them into a three-eyed Obama lover.

You obviously can't force someone to get vaccinated against their will, but I'm all for enacting every restriction you can for the willfully unvaccinated while transmission rates are this high. Would also be perfectly fine incentivizing vaccinations with cash handouts as well.

Alternative is that this thing sticks around forever, mutating in perpetuity, finding workarounds to our vaccines, and discovering a way to hospitalize our children as well.

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Re: COVID Again Rampant in Jax
« Reply #2 on: July 07, 2021, 10:03:26 PM »
Yep!

In the last week, positive test rate in Duval County has been over 11% - more than double the other largest counties in the state.

Baker County is at over 15%.

Cool that bodies are piling up in places like India due to vaccine shortages, but people in Northeast Florida can't be bothered to walk across the street to Publix and get poked because Facebook told them the vaccine would turn them into a three-eyed Obama lover.

You obviously can't force someone to get vaccinated against their will, but I'm all for enacting every restriction you can for the willfully unvaccinated while transmission rates are this high. Would also be perfectly fine incentivizing vaccinations with cash handouts as well.

Alternative is that this thing sticks around forever, mutating in perpetuity, finding workarounds to our vaccines, and discovering a way to hospitalize our children as well.


Since the MAGAites are in love with requiring an ID to vote, make it so you can't vote without a current vaccination card. Of course, there would have to be significant penalties for forging vac-cards.

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Re: COVID Again Rampant in Jax
« Reply #3 on: July 08, 2021, 08:07:07 AM »
It's SARS-CoV-2 or covid19, not "covid". 

That one can't even get that basic detail right makes it no suprise about the chicken littism at work in this this.

Hospitals are almost always getting closer to being full when they're adding.  What a meaningless thing to say.    Absolutely tells us nothing.

What does hospital capacity look like, median and avg, by month for the previous decade?

ICU beds?

What is the current occupancy of hospital beds?  How many with covid19?  How many _because of_ covid19?

RIght now ~5% of the florida hospital beds are occupied a patient w/ covid19.

If we're not talking numbers, we're just wasting time.

https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/public-health/number-of-covid-19-hospitalizations-state-by-state-july-15.html

Florida

Current: 3,307

Cumulative: 82,237

State's hospital bed capacity: 54,744


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Re: COVID Again Rampant in Jax
« Reply #4 on: July 08, 2021, 08:29:37 AM »
It's SARS-CoV-2 or covid19, not "covid". 

That one can't even get that basic detail right makes it no suprise about the chicken littism at work in this this.

Hospitals are almost always getting closer to being full when they're adding.  What a meaningless thing to say.    Absolutely tells us nothing.

What does hospital capacity look like, median and avg, by month for the previous decade?

ICU beds?

What is the current occupancy of hospital beds?  How many with covid19?  How many _because of_ covid19?

RIght now ~5% of the florida hospital beds are occupied a patient w/ covid19.

If we're not talking numbers, we're just wasting time.

https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/public-health/number-of-covid-19-hospitalizations-state-by-state-july-15.html

Florida

Current: 3,307

Cumulative: 82,237

State's hospital bed capacity: 54,744

While not scientifically specific, everyone knows what you mean when you say just COVID, particularly in informal conversation. That one can't even get that basic understanding of language right makes it unsurprising about the pointless pedantry at work in this.

Also, if you want to be patronizing and correct someone's word use, spell "chicken littleism" correctly. ;)
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Re: COVID Again Rampant in Jax
« Reply #5 on: July 08, 2021, 08:30:59 AM »
The unvaccinated jeopardize all of us... even increased chances for new variations... Pretty sure though that vaccination resistance covers all parties, races, religions or whatever category you insist on putting people in...
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Re: COVID Again Rampant in Jax
« Reply #6 on: July 08, 2021, 08:33:35 AM »
The unvaccinated jeopardize all of us... even increased chances for new variations... Pretty sure though that vaccination resistance covers all parties, races, religions or whatever category you insist on putting people in...

Very true. Our best bet is to get more people vaccinated.
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Re: COVID Again Rampant in Jax
« Reply #7 on: July 08, 2021, 08:38:39 AM »
It's SARS-CoV-2 or covid19, not "covid". 

That one can't even get that basic detail right makes it no suprise about the chicken littism at work in this this.

Hospitals are almost always getting closer to being full when they're adding.  What a meaningless thing to say.    Absolutely tells us nothing.

What does hospital capacity look like, median and avg, by month for the previous decade?

ICU beds?

What is the current occupancy of hospital beds?  How many with covid19?  How many _because of_ covid19?

RIght now ~5% of the florida hospital beds are occupied a patient w/ covid19.

If we're not talking numbers, we're just wasting time.

https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/public-health/number-of-covid-19-hospitalizations-state-by-state-july-15.html

Florida

Current: 3,307

Cumulative: 82,237

State's hospital bed capacity: 54,744
Isn't it amazing how so many countries played down their numbers of cases, bordering on lying and cooking the books and now suddenly they urgently need vaccination supplies?

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Re: COVID Again Rampant in Jax
« Reply #8 on: July 08, 2021, 09:14:11 AM »
The unvaccinated jeopardize all of us... even increased chances for new variations... Pretty sure though that vaccination resistance covers all parties, races, religions or whatever category you insist on putting people in...

Fair point, I shouldn’t generalize. Though most of the data I’ve seen suggests that education level, income, and political affiliation are statistically significant predictors of covid-19 vaccination, I know plenty of people on both sides who are still unvaccinated. A lot of them are in at-risk categories as well. You’d think with a billion safely vaccinated, well documented evidence of covid’s long term damage, and stats coming out of places like Los Angeles county showing that 99.4% of all covid deaths in 2021 have been from the unvaccinated, people would do some back of the napkin risk/reward calculations and logically conclude that the greater risk comes from not being vaccinated.

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Re: COVID Again Rampant in Jax
« Reply #9 on: July 08, 2021, 09:23:44 AM »
I'm still stunned that Florida's major public universities have not required all students and faculty to be vaccinated. A major fail that I assume was brought about because of university administrators' fear of DeSantis and the Florida "Lege."

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Re: COVID Again Rampant in Jax
« Reply #10 on: July 08, 2021, 09:29:53 AM »
Twenty four states have seen an uptick of at least 10% in Covid-19 cases over the past week as health experts and the federal government keep pressing for more people to get vaccinated,” CNN reports.
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Re: COVID Again Rampant in Jax
« Reply #11 on: July 08, 2021, 10:20:33 AM »
I'm still stunned that Florida's major public universities have not required all students and faculty to be vaccinated. A major fail that I assume was brought about because of university administrators' fear of DeSantis and the Florida "Lege."

Florida law and an executive order from the governor prohibit state universities, government agencies and businesses from requiring proof of vaccination.
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« Reply #12 on: July 08, 2021, 05:02:18 PM »
Duval County is on both maps for high incidence of Covid

https://twitter.com/josh_wingrove/status/1413156224405757960/photo/1
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Re: COVID Again Rampant in Jax
« Reply #13 on: July 09, 2021, 08:24:54 AM »
It's like you couldn't get enough fearmongering on the mainstream news, so you decided to start posting your own on the forum.

This thread sucks

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Re: COVID Again Rampant in Jax
« Reply #14 on: July 09, 2021, 12:13:54 PM »
Here's some fear mongering for you:

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/florida-republican-james-ring-covid_n_60e77808e4b0b9a790b70f84


What a dumb ass. "President of the Lakeland GOP."  I believe it.