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DeSantis Politicizing FDOT?
« on: June 08, 2021, 11:51:27 PM »
Just when you thought he couldn't politicize anything else after going against transgenders in high school sports, curtailing teaching critical race theory, denying fair treatment to innocent protesters, preventing the health department from releasing full COVID info, etc., he has managed to steer FDOT into an anti-LGBTQ mode:

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JTA lit the Acosta Bridge in rainbow colors for Pride. A day later, it changed it back

The Florida Department of Transportation has ordered the removal of the rainbow lighting from the Acosta Bridge, according to the Jacksonville Transportation Authority.

"This afternoon the FDOT informed the JTA that our scheduled color scheme for the Acosta Bridge is out of compliance with our existing permit. The JTA will comply accordingly," according to a statement from the JTA released Tuesday night....

https://www.jacksonville.com/story/news/local/2021/06/08/fdot-orders-removal-pride-lighting-jacksonvilles-acosta-bridge/7613184002/


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Re: DeSantis Politicizing FDOT?
« Reply #1 on: June 09, 2021, 12:04:28 AM »
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https://www.facebook.com/events/616193696006724/?acontext=%7B%22ref%22%3A%2252%22%2C%22action_history%22%3A%22[%7B%5C%22surface%5C%22%3A%5C%22share_link%5C%22%2C%5C%22mechanism%5C%22%3A%5C%22share_link%5C%22%2C%5C%22extra_data%5C%22%3A%7B%5C%22invite_link_id%5C%22%3A1088831684975801%7D%7D]%22%7D

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Walk the Acosta with Pride
Free   · Acosta Brg, Jacksonville,

FDOT forced JTA to not display Pride colors on the Acosta. So, we're going to bring Pride colors to the Acosta and walk it with our Pride flags (or drive if the sidewalk isn't available or you aren't able to walk it). Masks encouraged, please.

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I’d keep an eye on the event page, as with anything pull together quickly, I’m sure there will be updates! Since it’s a quick turnaround event, with no time for permitting, it will surely mean making sure we don’t block sidewalks or roads, and that we keep moving. I would say grab a few friends, plan to meet at one end of the bridge, and go with the flow.

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Re: DeSantis Politicizing FDOT?
« Reply #2 on: June 09, 2021, 12:26:01 AM »
Apparently, the word must be coming straight from the executive suite because similar lighting was denied in Sarasota and on the Sunshine Skyway Bridge:

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Sarasota’s John Ringling Causeway Bridge will not be glowing with rainbow lights to celebrate Pride Month, as city officials had hoped.

The Florida Department of Transportation rejected a request from Sarasota to light the bridge in conjunction with the month-long Pride celebration, a request that the state has approved for other lighting displays....

....According to the FDOT’s bridge lighting policy, the department reserves the right to refuse requests it deems offensive or not in the public’s best interest.....

....The state also rejected plans to light the Sunshine Skyway Bridge connecting Manatee County to Pinellas County, according to a representative at the St. Pete Pride organization.

https://www.jacksonville.com/story/news/local/sarasota/2021/06/04/pride-month-fdot-denies-request-light-sarasota-ringling-causeway-bridge-rainbow-colors/7525452002/

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Re: DeSantis Politicizing FDOT?
« Reply #3 on: June 09, 2021, 09:07:15 AM »
Still searching for where DeSantis is responsible. Are we sure it wasn’t just someone in the FDOT with an agenda?
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Re: DeSantis Politicizing FDOT?
« Reply #4 on: June 09, 2021, 09:11:55 AM »
Still searching for where DeSantis is responsible. Are we sure it wasn’t just someone in the FDOT with an agenda?

There is no evidence. This thread is stupid and kneejerk

DeSantis is becoming Florida's republican bogeyman according to the twitter crowd

Social media was a mistake

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Re: DeSantis Politicizing FDOT?
« Reply #5 on: June 09, 2021, 09:52:39 AM »


There are people in this world that have no clue about the dangers of crying wolf.

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Re: DeSantis Politicizing FDOT?
« Reply #6 on: June 09, 2021, 10:06:37 AM »
Still searching for where DeSantis is responsible. Are we sure it wasn’t just someone in the FDOT with an agenda?

As someone who worked in state government, but a different state, that sounds VERY, VERY unlikely. The last thing 99.99% of state bureaucrats want to do is get unwanted attention for their agency.   

Considering the Governor's prior actions THIS month, it is not at all a stretch to presume he is behind this or at least gave it tacit approval.  How well he covered his tracks or is able to find a scapegoat in that case, is another matter.   
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Re: DeSantis Politicizing FDOT?
« Reply #7 on: June 09, 2021, 10:28:55 AM »
Side note: The Acosta sure likes nice lit up again - regardless of the colors.

I seem to recall something similar happening years ago in St. Augustine on the Bridge of Lions with the flags.  Now they fly none.  Hope we're not headed down that road.

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Re: DeSantis Politicizing FDOT?
« Reply #8 on: June 09, 2021, 10:50:41 AM »
Considering the Governor's prior actions THIS month, it is not at all a stretch to presume he is behind this or at least gave it tacit approval.  How well he covered his tracks or is able to find a scapegoat in that case, is another matter.   

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Rainbow lights are back on tonight, btw.


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Re: DeSantis Politicizing FDOT?
« Reply #9 on: June 09, 2021, 10:56:13 AM »
The circumstantial evidence includes DeSantis signing an anti-transgender law on June 1st - the first day of Pride Month, and on June 2nd vetoing funds to provide mental health assistance LGBTQ people, including Pulse Massacre survivors.

Article about the rainbow returning https://floridapolitics.com/archives/434689-fdot-pride/?fbclid=IwAR1lrctgj7nXEUqrixZiNcvjylDTjOep46brkvt9_ZobjI9zzkXkl5gjGxY

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Re: DeSantis Politicizing FDOT?
« Reply #10 on: June 09, 2021, 11:01:18 AM »
Still searching for where DeSantis is responsible. Are we sure it wasn’t just someone in the FDOT with an agenda?

There is no evidence. This thread is stupid and kneejerk

DeSantis is becoming Florida's republican bogeyman according to the twitter crowd

Social media was a mistake



There are people in this world that have no clue about the dangers of crying wolf.

Do you really think if a Democrat or moderate Republican was our governor, we would be seeing decisions like this?  The Governor sets the tone for all of State government and, as they say, the buck stops at the top.

I have also noted this decision was made in other areas of the State in differing FDOT districts.  The only thing they have in common is management in Tallahassee indicating it would rise to the level of Secretary of FDOT, a political appointee of the governor.  Call it guilt by association, if you will, but the governor has worked hard to earn his "I am in charge reputation" so he needs to live with what comes with it.

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Re: DeSantis Politicizing FDOT?
« Reply #11 on: June 09, 2021, 12:10:10 PM »
Still searching for where DeSantis is responsible. Are we sure it wasn’t just someone in the FDOT with an agenda?

There is no evidence. This thread is stupid and kneejerk

DeSantis is becoming Florida's republican bogeyman according to the twitter crowd

Social media was a mistake



There are people in this world that have no clue about the dangers of crying wolf.

Do you really think if a Democrat or moderate Republican was our governor, we would be seeing decisions like this?  The Governor sets the tone for all of State government and, as they say, the buck stops at the top.

I have also noted this decision was made in other areas of the State in differing FDOT districts.  The only thing they have in common is management in Tallahassee indicating it would rise to the level of Secretary of FDOT, a political appointee of the governor.  Call it guilt by association, if you will, but the governor has worked hard to earn his "I am in charge reputation" so he needs to live with what comes with it.

Jax is FDOT District 2. Sarasota (District 1) and Pinellas County (District 7) reportedly also had requests denied to run rainbow lights for Pride. Clearly this isn't a district decision, it's coming from the top. In Jacksonville, this is literally the first time FDOT made JTA change the lights, even though many different colors and combinations have run previously without permission. This is besides DeSantis's homophobic red meat over the last few days. Crying wolf is justified when there is indeed a wolf.
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Re: DeSantis Politicizing FDOT?
« Reply #12 on: June 09, 2021, 12:58:08 PM »
I can't convince you that the bogeyman doesn't exist, so if you still see him hiding under your bed that's your problem

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Re: DeSantis Politicizing FDOT?
« Reply #13 on: June 09, 2021, 01:33:03 PM »
I can't convince you that the bogeyman doesn't exist, so if you still see him hiding under your bed that's your problem

If you don't want to pull your head out of the sand, we can't force you. 
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Re: DeSantis Politicizing FDOT?
« Reply #14 on: June 09, 2021, 01:34:10 PM »
I can't convince you that the bogeyman doesn't exist, so if you still see him hiding under your bed that's your problem

If you don't want to pull your head out of the sand, we can't force you. 

Do you believe that when the blue jay or another bird sings and the body is trembling, that is a signal that people are coming or something important is about to happen?