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Re: Is U2C serious? Help me make it make sense....
« Reply #60 on: July 15, 2021, 09:08:07 PM »
Sure is a helluva long way from the on- demand robot rideshare we were promised could pick grandma up and take her to her doctor's appointment. I thought we were getting a cutting- edge transit system.

And don't forget, these will give our kids a clear advantage as we churn out legions of robotics experts from DCPS....somehow?

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« Reply #61 on: July 16, 2021, 01:14:31 PM »
This is just the solution!



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« Reply #62 on: August 26, 2021, 09:41:24 AM »
Waymo to start AV ride service in San Francisco https://techcrunch.com/2021/08/24/waymo-launches-robotaxi-service-in-san-francisco/?utm_source=join1440&utm_medium=email

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Waymo, the self-driving vehicle company under Alphabet, has launched a robotaxi service that will be open to certain vetted riders in San Francisco.

On Tuesday, the company officially kicked off its Waymo One Trusted Tester program in the city with a fleet of all-electric Jaguar I-PACEs equipped with the company’s fifth generation of its autonomous vehicle system. This AV system, which has been branded the Waymo Driver, is informed by 20 million self-driven miles on public roads and over 10 billion miles driven in simulation, according to Waymo.
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The company will have so-called “autonomous specialists” — another term for human safety operators — sitting in the front seat to monitor the ride and ensure a safe experience. These safety drivers are contract workers, and employed by Transdev. Waymo has long partnered with Transdev to provide staffing for some of its operations.

Jaguars!

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« Reply #63 on: August 26, 2021, 01:06:27 PM »
JTA's board is expected to approve the contracts for program management, as well as for the design, operation, and maintenance of the Bay Street Innovation Corridor today. The latter's NOITA isn't available anywhere I can find it, but the former lists England-Thims & Miller as the winner (and possibly only shortlisted applicant) for program management, and the document is partly titled "Balfour Beatty Construction."

If this is true, then based on my previous analysis of the consortiums involved in this, Bay Street will use some combination of or choice between Navya and Olli AVs, which is what JTA has been most recently testing. We'll know for sure in a few hours.
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« Reply #64 on: August 26, 2021, 04:52:30 PM »
https://www.investors.com/news/tesla-stock-ceo-elon-musk-unleashes-another-surprise-on-full-self-driving/

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Tesla (TSLA) CEO Elon Musk now says the EV maker's Full Self Driving beta will be available to the wider U.S. public in about four weeks.

By the time the JTA system is online, Waymo and Tesla will be driving literal circles around these cars on Bay Street. The clown cars will be safety hazards due to their slow speeds.  This is such a waste of time and money.

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« Reply #65 on: August 26, 2021, 05:14:14 PM »
Definitely, a waste of time and money. How about some bus shelters please?!
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« Reply #66 on: August 26, 2021, 06:09:03 PM »
Definitely, a waste of time and money. How about some bus shelters please?!

To be fair, I was under the impression bus shelters and ADA compliance were part of the non-U2C ask by JTA for the gas tax increase.

Unfortunately I had class and couldn't see the meeting, so I'm not sure who ended up receiving the contract. For whatever reason, despite streaming the meeting they don't seem to record it.
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« Reply #67 on: August 26, 2021, 11:17:54 PM »
The Daily Record put out an article with details.

https://www.jaxdailyrecord.com/article/jta-awards-design-engineering-contracts-for-skyway-replacement

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The Balfour Beatty V2R is a consortium of five companies including Superior Construction Co. Southeast; Beep Inc.; WGI, Inc.; Stantec Consulting Services Inc.; Miller Electric; and Balfour Beatty.

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According to board documents, Balfour Beatty VR2 was the only bidder.

The board also voted unanimously to negotiate an estimated $2 million contract with England-Thims & Miller for construction, engineering and inspection for the first phase of the project.

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After the vote Aug. 26, Schmidt said taking the design from 30% to the 90% goal in the next year will refine the cost estimate, as JTA and Balfour Beatty selects technologies that will make the U2C function.

“We have to make sure we’re not picking the Blackberry but we’re picking the iPhone,” Ford said.

“It’s that kind of challenge that we have to walk through and negotiate that design with Balfour Beatty.”
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« Reply #68 on: August 27, 2021, 04:55:19 PM »
They're only at 30% design and there was only one bidder?! Expect the estimated cost to skyrocket. Definitely watching this show with a tub of popcorn. Hopefully, they can avoid hurting downtown businesses if they are imagining tearing up Bay Street.
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« Reply #70 on: August 27, 2021, 05:43:59 PM »
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From the linked article
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At the time, the vehicle was under manual control of an operator, who told police they "were aware that a person was there but thought (the person) would (realize that a bus was coming) and stop crossing the (street)," the Asahi reported.

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« Reply #71 on: September 02, 2021, 03:49:53 PM »
They're only at 30% design and there was only one bidder?! Expect the estimated cost to skyrocket. Definitely watching this show with a tub of popcorn. Hopefully, they can avoid hurting downtown businesses if they are imagining tearing up Bay Street.

Ya.... I just love how they magically went from $500M to $300M..... like they're angling for a New Starts US FTA grant.

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Re: Is U2C serious? Help me make it make sense....
« Reply #72 on: September 02, 2021, 05:54:45 PM »
They're only at 30% design and there was only one bidder?! Expect the estimated cost to skyrocket. Definitely watching this show with a tub of popcorn. Hopefully, they can avoid hurting downtown businesses if they are imagining tearing up Bay Street.

But Lake,

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Not only will AVs satisfy all of the program requirements, but they will also be the most cost-effective approach for new service extensions and are rapidly evolving in their capabilities.
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« Reply #73 on: September 02, 2021, 06:43:05 PM »
Of course! Wishful and optimistic at best. No rational nexus or proven facts for them to base the optimism upon. So when reality strikes, the message will shift.
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« Reply #74 on: September 03, 2021, 02:17:02 AM »
Of course! Wishful and optimistic at best. No rational nexus or proven facts for them to base the optimism upon. So when reality strikes, the message will shift.

Well, there's this quote from a report dated September 26, 2016:

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The driverless automated transit solution is evolving at such a rapid pace; one can expect that within a
short amount of time, it will be able to accommodate most urban transit needs and solutions.
So, to the young people fighting in this movement for change, here is my charge: march in the streets, protest, run for school committee or city council or the state legislature. And win. - Ed Markey