Author Topic: 2020 Congressional District 4 Debate  (Read 4860 times)

JaxJersey-licious

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Re: 2020 Congressional District 4 Debate
« Reply #45 on: January 09, 2021, 01:23:22 PM »
The main reason I have always believed the key to having a healthy electorate is to have continuous engagement of all voters and what partisan restricted elections tend to do is break that engagement by many voters.

Over the years potential voters have witnessed the likes of far-left activists making it clear the current political system we have is a sham and that they need to go over it's head to get what they want at the same time you have an increasing number of aggrieved voters in constant denial of reality fanning the flames of ludicrous conspiracy theories given tacit approval and even egged on by far-right politicians and ultimately cheering on the disruption and defiling of our political process with almost all of them proud to have a big fat R on their voter card. Many young people in particularly see this and don't want to  have any part of this shit show but the 2020 election was able to get more of them into the fold for the first time and partly because they've seen what's been taken place politically choose to not register with  any political party in unprecedented numbers.

Now a primary system open to all will not guarantee more involvement by an increasingly disillusioned voter base but think of the possibilities this could open up. Wouldn't you rather see John Rutherford in a year and a half looking over his shoulder for the threat of a primary opponent making more noise or one making more fucking sense?

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Re: 2020 Congressional District 4 Debate
« Reply #46 on: January 11, 2021, 03:41:42 PM »
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Re: 2020 Congressional District 4 Debate
« Reply #47 on: January 13, 2021, 02:20:26 PM »
Mark Woods joins Nate Monroe in skewering Rutherford for his vote to object and loyalty to Trumpism:

https://www.jacksonville.com/story/news/columns/mark-woods/2021/01/13/john-rutherford-sacrificed-law-and-order-fueling-lawlessness-and-disorder/6630619002/

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The law-and-order Congressman helped fuel day of lawlessness and disorder

He’s saying otherwise now.

He is saying his Jan. 6 vote never was about overturning the results of a presidential election.

So it’s worth pointing out that Rep. John Rutherford rang in the New Year by tweeting his support of an effort to do exactly that.

He even laid out the plan....

....Some of the strongest on-air pushback to Rutherford’s statements came from Rick Mullaney. Now the director of Jacksonville University’s Public Policy Institute, Mullaney is a lifelong Republican, legal counsel for three Republican mayors (Ed Austin, John Delaney and John Peyton).

Mullaney pointed to Article 2 of the Constitution and the 12th Amendment. He laid out the history. And he said that in the context of the 2020 election, the Constitution is very clear: Congress did not have the authority to overturn it.

“Congressman,” he said on the show. “The simple question is: Do you believe Congress had the authority to overturn the certified electoral votes of those states?”

“Yes,” Rutherford said. “As has been done six times at least in recent history.”

“With all due respect, it’s never happened,” Mullaney said. “The electoral vote never has been overturned.”....

.....History should show Rutherford now is engaged in rapid revisionist history.

History should show that a congressman whose political career was built on law and order sacrificed both, helping to fuel a day that will go down in American history for its unlawfulness and disorder.
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Re: 2020 Congressional District 4 Debate
« Reply #48 on: January 14, 2021, 01:46:10 AM »
Let the record show that Rutherford also voted against the second impeachment.