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The disturbing history of the suburbs
« on: July 15, 2020, 10:24:12 AM »
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Re: The disturbing history of the suburbs
« Reply #1 on: July 17, 2020, 05:13:21 PM »

The disturbing history of the suburbs?   


What about 2010?  2020?   Or are we to dwellon things from 80 years ago _FOREVER_?

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Re: The disturbing history of the suburbs
« Reply #2 on: July 17, 2020, 05:52:20 PM »
Congratulations on completely missing the point?

The effects of the things from 80 years ago haven't gone away. Those factors contribute to the economic conditions today of downtown, westside, northside, and Arlington neighborhoods as well as the growth of places like St. Johns County. The game was rigged then and because it's never been truly rebalanced, the game is still rigged in 2010 and 2020.
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Re: The disturbing history of the suburbs
« Reply #3 on: July 18, 2020, 07:33:28 AM »
They're still naming neighborhoods "Plantation" Oaks or whatever in St. John's county.

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Re: The disturbing history of the suburbs
« Reply #4 on: July 18, 2020, 11:37:44 AM »
They're still naming neighborhoods "Plantation" Oaks or whatever in St. John's county.

They actually renamed Silverleaf Plantation to just Silverleaf here, that was interesting.
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Re: The disturbing history of the suburbs
« Reply #5 on: July 18, 2020, 10:21:33 PM »
Track Official Record Book & Page along First Coast Expressway/ Outer Beltway.
Twenty seven years too late but maybe some help in......... well, who knows.


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Re: The disturbing history of the suburbs
« Reply #6 on: July 22, 2020, 12:11:12 PM »
Congratulations on completely missing the point?

The effects of the things from 80 years ago haven't gone away. Those factors contribute to the economic conditions today of downtown, westside, northside, and Arlington neighborhoods as well as the growth of places like St. Johns County. The game was rigged then and because it's never been truly rebalanced, the game is still rigged in 2010 and 2020.

Something that happened 4 generations ago is not _evidence_ of it happening today.   


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Re: The disturbing history of the suburbs
« Reply #7 on: July 22, 2020, 02:06:15 PM »
^The results would be and still contribute to the economic conditions of the surrounding area.  Even today, living on Goodwin and Post in Riverside is significantly different than Goodwin and Edison Street in North Riverside.
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Re: The disturbing history of the suburbs
« Reply #8 on: November 05, 2020, 02:27:22 PM »

And that's the problem, y'll are claiming what is there is __THEEEEEE__ result.  It's one of 20-someting factors.  A part but far, far, far, far from the whole picture.

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Re: The disturbing history of the suburbs
« Reply #9 on: November 05, 2020, 07:46:46 PM »
We are simply witnessing a feast of consequences.

With State Conservation and Recreation Environmental Preservation Fee Simple Public Lands purchase effectively stopped a lot of acreage has morphed to “ inevitable “ development, mostly boring. But very profitable.

I recall Clay Counter Planner Dick Post way back in the 80’s........ subtle warning of What Could Happen.
Seemed unimaginable to some back then.
Then Riverside resident Susan Fraser becomes Clay Planner Director, in step with entrenched Clay Development Directive, the footprint can even be revealed via Clay County Official Record Book and Page research, speculation even hinting to eventual FL DOT Director family ties.Genesis Group.
Then a former Prosser Hallock Planner and Consultant/ St John Nocotee ends up as Clay Planner.
Two Lake Asbury Sector Plans ......
And of course Jon Delaney Brannon Chaffee “ Stand Alone- Not an Outer Beltway Piece”

So here some are pontificating on the horrible Suburb. In our region, the Edge City Suburbs a needed facility for alternative to Duval, militant anti Duval outlook embedded within surrounding countries a driver for Suburban expansion.
Not to mention Suburban planning and expansion within Duval.

Some were in angst and “ Activist” fighting the development trend decades ago.
Thousand Friends Of Florida et al current alarm and call to action has become a parody.

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Lost opportunity- it’s all consequences now
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