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Re: JEA headquarters to shrink
« Reply #90 on: November 17, 2020, 07:38:15 PM »
What are the east/west streets for the block? I can't find a JEA substation along Jefferson across from LaVill School on G-Maps.


Sorry for the confusion, is the  Church St substation.

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Re: JEA headquarters to shrink
« Reply #91 on: November 17, 2020, 07:41:50 PM »
I'm not sure but I don't recall that area of LaVilla being flood prone. It's quite elevated compared to when you get closer to McCoys Creek and the river.

Per the article the site is not located in a City Hurricane Evacuation Zone or within FEMA’s 100 Year Flood plain.

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Re: JEA headquarters to shrink
« Reply #92 on: December 11, 2020, 11:48:32 AM »
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The building is designed as 162,741 square feet among seven occupiable floors and the penthouse mechanical level, so it is listed as eight levels.

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Re: JEA headquarters to shrink
« Reply #93 on: December 11, 2020, 12:11:29 PM »
$191 per SF. Plug $200 per SF into the Lot J numbers  and you get .....
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Re: JEA headquarters to shrink
« Reply #94 on: December 11, 2020, 12:20:54 PM »
$191 per SF. Plug $200 per SF into the Lot J numbers  and you get .....

Apartments, hotel rooms and retail spaces cost more to construct than what are basically blank floorplates with some inexpensive partitions, different sprinkler and plubming requirements and one or two restroom banks per floor.  JEA's building is pretty significantly value-engineered. Mixed use residential/retail/structured parking is more like $260-375 per sq ft (depending on how high end you get) at today's construction prices.

That said, I'm the first one to admit that the Lot J and the previous ampitheater/practice field numbers look inflated... even given that Lot J numbers likely include retail fit out costs as the Jags/Cordish will be joint operators in some way of at least the larger retail uses.
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Re: JEA headquarters to shrink
« Reply #95 on: December 11, 2020, 02:30:43 PM »
^^ Mid-rise apartments are mostly stick-built, not steel and concrete are they not? Lower ceilings too. 
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Re: JEA headquarters to shrink
« Reply #96 on: December 11, 2020, 02:41:42 PM »
^^ Mid-rise apartments are mostly stick-built, not steel and concrete are they not? Lower ceilings too.

The mixed use building (residential and retail) w/ structured parking that will replace the Doro building, one block away from Lot J, is going to pencil out around $265/sq ft. That's a pretty basic structure architecturally (not a complaint, just reality).  If finishes were nicer, that could balloon to $270+/sq ft. Better facade treatments, then more cost is added.  Some of the nicer (speaking to architecture and amenities) buildings in West Palm Beach or Midtown Atlanta are certainly eclipsing the $300/sq ft mark. If the developer paid for fit out of the operating businesses (likely to occur at Lot J) within the project, that is easily another $50/sq ft. Add in some kind of fancy outdoor amenities, stage, sound and lighting systems... figure another $20-30/sq ft.   
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Re: JEA headquarters to shrink
« Reply #97 on: December 11, 2020, 09:38:42 PM »
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The building is designed as 162,741 square feet among seven occupiable floors and the penthouse mechanical level, so it is listed as eight levels.

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