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downtownbrown

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Berkman Getting Close....Again
« on: March 09, 2020, 10:30:40 AM »
https://www.bizjournals.com/jacksonville/news/2020/03/06/berkman-ii-owner-getting-close-to-resolving.html

Hate to bring up a sore subject, but apparently Ohde is not dead yet.  Would be nice to know who Boyer spoke with, and if Ohde has anything to do with that conversation.  I suspect not, but I'm always optimistic.

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Re: Berkman Getting Close....Again
« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2020, 10:53:33 PM »
Hopefully, but it sounds a bit like he might be posturing to avoid having the property confiscated by the city.

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"In a conversation with the Business Journal, Ohde declined to give specifics about how the company will handle its impending balloon payment, but said, "We've got things ready to go forward."

The building has sat vacant and unfinished for years, and the city condemned the structure last month. City spokespeople did not immediately respond to questions sent Friday morning about steps the city has taken since sending that letter.

Barrington submitted plans in 2018 to redevelop the Berkman into a 340-room hotel, water park, ferris wheel and parking garage. It subsequently downgraded those plans, and 500 East Bay then failed to pay $58,000 in property taxes that year.

Those delinquent taxes, as well as last year's property taxes, were paid in full last December.

Downtown Investment Authority CEO Lori Boyer told the Business Journal on Friday she had met with prospective buyers for the Berkman – including people who were in Jacksonville this week — but Ohde said he expects to stay attached to the property.

"We're looking at partnering with someone at this point," he said. "I can't go into any more details at this point."

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Re: Berkman Getting Close....Again
« Reply #2 on: March 10, 2020, 09:40:23 AM »
one look at Ohde's website will confirm that he is out of his depth.  Hard to believe he still hasn't updated it over the last several years.  Documents still pasted haphazardly.  No, the more I think about it, the more I think part of the strategy is to get him out of the way.

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Re: Berkman Getting Close....Again
« Reply #3 on: March 10, 2020, 01:44:37 PM »
OK. Once we get these road blocks out of the way...WHERE are the damn cranes? Let's get moving!
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Re: Berkman Getting Close....Again
« Reply #4 on: March 10, 2020, 03:35:54 PM »
one look at Ohde's website will confirm that he is out of his depth.  Hard to believe he still hasn't updated it over the last several years.  Documents still pasted haphazardly.  No, the more I think about it, the more I think part of the strategy is to get him out of the way.

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I mean, for pete's sake… what are the odds I could charge this guy a thousand bucks to get him some Wordpress? It's pitiful.
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Re: Berkman Getting Close....Again
« Reply #6 on: March 12, 2020, 10:20:24 AM »
^Sounds like a Jax type solution. Who pays for the demolition?
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Re: Berkman Getting Close....Again
« Reply #7 on: March 12, 2020, 11:40:34 AM »
RFP for demolition appears imminent.

https://www.bizjournals.com/jacksonville/news/2020/03/11/city-has-steps-in-place-to-demolish-berkman.html
Man oh man; unless they're going to build something super and extraordinary there, they should find someone who wants to finish building what's there (residential, office, or multi). Every time I turn around something is getting demolished, torn down, or razed in downtown Jacksonville. Glad it's not the whole city because if it was, there would be no Jacksonville!
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Re: Berkman Getting Close....Again
« Reply #8 on: March 12, 2020, 12:52:23 PM »
they should find someone who wants to finish building what's there

Doesn't seem very likely. Difficult to finish a structure that's sat vacant and possibly vandalized for over a decade, even harder to find someone who would sign off on the structural integrity of such a building, especially when the ORIGINAL construction had a major collapse and death.

Getting nostalgic and wanting old structures not to be knocked down, I can sympathize with. IDGAF about an unfinished eyesore, can't see why anybody else would either.

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Re: Berkman Getting Close....Again
« Reply #9 on: March 13, 2020, 12:00:02 AM »
they should find someone who wants to finish building what's there

Doesn't seem very likely. Difficult to finish a structure that's sat vacant and possibly vandalized for over a decade, even harder to find someone who would sign off on the structural integrity of such a building, especially when the ORIGINAL construction had a major collapse and death.

Getting nostalgic and wanting old structures not to be knocked down, I can sympathize with. IDGAF about an unfinished eyesore, can't see why anybody else would either.
But wasn't the idea entertained a few years ago where someone was going to finish it into something else. IDOGAF; understood about structural integrity, etc.; but look like they would have demolished it long ago if that really was an issue.
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Re: Berkman Getting Close....Again
« Reply #10 on: March 13, 2020, 06:27:21 AM »
At this point I really don't care.  I'd rather see the city just fine the piss out of the property then foreclose on it and RFP it or something.  Mainly because I would rather not pay for the demo.

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Re: Berkman Getting Close....Again
« Reply #11 on: March 13, 2020, 08:46:44 AM »
At this point I really don't care.  I'd rather see the city just fine the piss out of the property then foreclose on it and RFP it or something.  Mainly because I would rather not pay for the demo.

Then the owner will declare bankruptcy and the fines will attach as a lien that any potential buyer will have to pay.  No one will want to buy it. The City will still be stuck with demolition.

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Re: Berkman Getting Close....Again
« Reply #12 on: March 13, 2020, 10:57:48 AM »
At this point I really don't care.  I'd rather see the city just fine the piss out of the property then foreclose on it and RFP it or something.  Mainly because I would rather not pay for the demo.

Then the owner will declare bankruptcy and the fines will attach as a lien that any potential buyer will have to pay.  No one will want to buy it. The City will still be stuck with demolition.

That's why I said the city could foreclose on it and sell/RFP it.

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Re: Berkman Getting Close....Again
« Reply #13 on: March 13, 2020, 11:24:14 AM »
Can't the city waive or reduce the fines?  If someone wants to take it over and develop it, the fines should not get in the way.  If some developer were to get a certificate of occupancy, the city should say job well done and waive the fines/remove the liens.

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Re: Berkman Getting Close....Again
« Reply #14 on: March 17, 2020, 04:07:01 PM »

The city has made it clear in the past they're willing to wave the fines.   Those shouldn't be an issue unless the developer lookign to buy has been stepping on too many toes in town.