Author Topic: Closer to Hart Bridge ramps coming down  (Read 1292 times)

bl8jaxnative

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Closer to Hart Bridge ramps coming down
« on: January 17, 2020, 10:46:39 AM »

Looks like we're a bit closer to reducing  the ramps over by the stadium.

https://www.jaxdailyrecord.com/article/three-firms-bid-to-tear-down-hart-bridge-ramp-near-tiaa-bank-field

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Re: Closer to Hart Bridge ramps coming down
« Reply #1 on: January 17, 2020, 11:08:16 AM »
The amount of torque to be used as people accelerate towards the remaining ramps will be incredible.

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Re: Closer to Hart Bridge ramps coming down
« Reply #2 on: January 17, 2020, 11:19:42 AM »
The amount of torque to be used as people accelerate towards the remaining ramps will be incredible.
Torque doesn't cause acceleration, power does.

Also, what are you trying to say?

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Re: Closer to Hart Bridge ramps coming down
« Reply #3 on: January 17, 2020, 03:27:05 PM »
Torque doesn't cause acceleration, power does.

Oops.

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Also, what are you trying to say?

Since this project looks to be happening without any improvements to make it anything other than a street-level expressway with a traffic light, people will stop for that light and then immediately speed up to get back onto the other ramp.

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Re: Closer to Hart Bridge ramps coming down
« Reply #4 on: January 17, 2020, 03:29:15 PM »
^You're right. They'll also speed up coming down the ramps, in order to beat the red light.
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Re: Closer to Hart Bridge ramps coming down
« Reply #5 on: January 17, 2020, 03:50:28 PM »
I was just being pedantic and kidding around about the torque/power misconception.

As for the speeding, I think there's gonna be a lot more traffic lights on this project than most would think. There's too many moving parts to keep this all free-flow, lotsa signalization seems almost necessary to keep merging traffic and cross traffic in order.

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Re: Closer to Hart Bridge ramps coming down
« Reply #6 on: January 17, 2020, 04:06:59 PM »
The mainline has two lights, a ramp and an interchange. Unless they put fences up to channel pedestrians to those two lights, you'll have jaywalking between the ramps to deal with as well. Especially during special events.
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Re: Closer to Hart Bridge ramps coming down
« Reply #7 on: January 17, 2020, 04:22:43 PM »
The mainline has two lights, a ramp and an interchange. Unless they put fences up to channel pedestrians to those two lights, you'll have jaywalking between the ramps to deal with as well. Especially during special events.

I don't think so... There's a signal at the existing crosswalk on Gator Bowl Blvd which I fully expect to be retained, there's got to be one where the ramps near Intuition come down Eastbound, there's got to be a couple on the new intersection with Gator Bowl Blvd. There will be at least 3 places to cross the new roadway based on the concepts we've been shown.

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Re: Closer to Hart Bridge ramps coming down
« Reply #8 on: January 17, 2020, 04:34:20 PM »
Intuition is west of the ramp at A. Philip Randolph. These are the only two marked crossings between the ramps (both of which are more dangerous than current conditions).





In addition, people will jaywalk unless there are physical barriers driving pedestrians to the marked crossings.

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Re: Closer to Hart Bridge ramps coming down
« Reply #9 on: January 17, 2020, 07:25:19 PM »
In addition, people will jaywalk unless there are physical barriers driving pedestrians to the marked crossings.

In this area, that should be changed to "Lot J Walk!"  Haha.

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Re: Closer to Hart Bridge ramps coming down
« Reply #10 on: January 17, 2020, 08:42:19 PM »
In addition, people will jaywalk unless there are physical barriers driving pedestrians to the marked crossings.

In this area, that should be changed to "Lot J Walk!"  Haha.

I respect what you did here.

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Re: Closer to Hart Bridge ramps coming down
« Reply #11 on: January 17, 2020, 09:16:10 PM »
Hmmm, is this a sign that Lot J, and even the convention center might happen? They sure are keeping secrets and then bam! They hit us with it.
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Re: Closer to Hart Bridge ramps coming down
« Reply #12 on: January 18, 2020, 09:05:04 PM »
Hmmm, is this a sign that Lot J, and even the convention center might happen? They sure are keeping secrets and then bam! They hit us with it.

This is Jacksonville. I can see the ramps coming down....and nothing at all being built. But demolishing something?? Absolutely!!

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Re: Closer to Hart Bridge ramps coming down
« Reply #13 on: January 20, 2020, 03:13:27 PM »
^You're right. They'll also speed up coming down the ramps, in order to beat the red light.

there likely won't be a red light - all but one light has been removed from the current plan - all that remains are two pedestrian-activated crosswalk signals
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Re: Closer to Hart Bridge ramps coming down
« Reply #14 on: January 20, 2020, 03:49:46 PM »
Intuition is west of the ramp at A. Philip Randolph. These are the only two marked crossings between the ramps (both of which are more dangerous than current conditions).





In addition, people will jaywalk unless there are physical barriers driving pedestrians to the marked crossings.



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there likely won't be a red light - all but one light has been removed from the current plan - all that remains are two pedestrian-activated crosswalk signals

Are you saying the two signals where the new ramp at the east end, to/from the Hart Bridge, are "gone" or that they are "pedestrian activated"?  It looks like they are necessary to make safe the left turns to/from the north/south portion of Gator Bowl Boulevard.