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Downtown Investment Authority CEO Lori Boyer’s proposal to create a dense restaurant and retail district Downtown is part of a larger plan.

Her goal is to create a market beyond the daytime demand from the estimated 50,000 urban core employees and work toward a Downtown residential population of 10,000 to 12,000 people.

Providing this urban lifestyle environment where people have places to go for breakfast and coffee and places to go after work for tacos or places to go for dinner is part of that,” she said.

Boyer has a plan.

The DIA’s Targeted Food and Beverage Program aims to cluster restaurants and bars in walkable areas of Downtown, creating two “distinct character corridors” in the core.

Full article: https://www.jaxdailyrecord.com/article/the-plan-to-spur-downtown-dining-includes-incentives-for-restaurants
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Re: The plan to spur Downtown dining includes incentives for restaurants
« Reply #1 on: January 17, 2020, 09:00:32 AM »
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Downtown Investment Authority CEO Lori Boyer’s proposal to create a dense restaurant and retail district Downtown is part of a larger plan.

Her goal is to create a market beyond the daytime demand from the estimated 50,000 urban core employees and work toward a Downtown residential population of 10,000 to 12,000 people.

Providing this urban lifestyle environment where people have places to go for breakfast and coffee and places to go after work for tacos or places to go for dinner is part of that,” she said.

Boyer has a plan.

The DIA’s Targeted Food and Beverage Program aims to cluster restaurants and bars in walkable areas of Downtown, creating two “distinct character corridors” in the core.

Full article: https://www.jaxdailyrecord.com/article/the-plan-to-spur-downtown-dining-includes-incentives-for-restaurants

Boyer may have finally discovered the secret to DT revitalization. It’s the tacos, stupid.

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Re: The plan to spur Downtown dining includes incentives for restaurants
« Reply #2 on: January 17, 2020, 09:05:53 AM »
Lol, better use of incentives than $200 million in hard cash for Lot J.

One can't help but imagine, how something like this could have helped fill the Landing up with local businesses. Oh well.
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Re: The plan to spur Downtown dining includes incentives for restaurants
« Reply #3 on: January 17, 2020, 09:28:55 AM »
Chef Tom Gray could do more to revitalize downtown with $200,000 than lenny could with $200 Million.

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Re: The plan to spur Downtown dining includes incentives for restaurants
« Reply #4 on: January 17, 2020, 09:40:36 AM »
Agreed. Split this between 2-3 decent restaurants located at the right spot, and this could be big.

Assuming there was a way to be sure the money won't go down the drain, I'd support adding a 0 to the dollar amount and helping 15 restaurants and bars with this.

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Re: The plan to spur Downtown dining includes incentives for restaurants
« Reply #5 on: January 17, 2020, 09:47:22 AM »
I'd actually be fine with having additional money added for decent street furniture to ensure a more visually dominating outdoor cafe style setting.
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Re: The plan to spur Downtown dining includes incentives for restaurants
« Reply #6 on: January 17, 2020, 09:54:28 AM »
There are a few interesting things in this article as I re-read:

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Board member Oliver Barakat said he wants DIA dollars used for capital improvements, not furniture and fixtures.

Barakat sees benefits to DIA helping with the costs of code compliance and upgrading mechanical and power systems and other improvements that extend the property beyond the life of the lease.

Totally agree. These are things that generally have to stay downtown and a business owner can't take them somewhere else

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To give the corridors visual appeal, Boyer suggests streetscape and public infrastructure improvements similar to those in Downtown Buffalo, New York and other U.S. cities.

Sounds like someone paid attention during the leadership trip to Buffalo. Nice Job.

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Boyer consulted with existing restaurant owners and real estate brokers while drafting the program.

What, drafting a program in a box based on zero experience is a bad idea? Again, Good job here talking to people actually in the business.

THIS is the type of thing I was hoping Boyer would do in this position. The Lot J and Landing issues are political footballs that she isn't going to win by getting in the middle of. Instead, concentrate on things like this that can spur activity. In reading, it also seems like they've put in requirements in order to get the right kind of places (open until 9PM on Friday/Saturday, clustering them in a corridor in order to create synergy, additional money for historic buildings, coordination with city parking (side note, a great example of why not to privatize), partnering with higher ed.

It's almost like someone with a brain thought this out.

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Re: The plan to spur Downtown dining includes incentives for restaurants
« Reply #7 on: January 17, 2020, 10:35:18 AM »
There are a few interesting things in this article as I re-read:

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Board member Oliver Barakat said he wants DIA dollars used for capital improvements, not furniture and fixtures.

Barakat sees benefits to DIA helping with the costs of code compliance and upgrading mechanical and power systems and other improvements that extend the property beyond the life of the lease.

Totally agree. These are things that generally have to stay downtown and a business owner can't take them somewhere else.

The restaurant business is pretty risky. The big benefit here is using money to upgrade existing spaces because, a few of these will fail. However, when that happens, the space is ready to be used by someone else.
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Re: The plan to spur Downtown dining includes incentives for restaurants
« Reply #8 on: January 17, 2020, 11:01:21 AM »
Get the public space right and the private space will take care of itself.  I'm still amazed the City leadership has to take field trips to other cities to see how things are done.  Don't they go on vacations or read books?  Pick up anything from Jeff Speck, Audrey Duany, Howard Kunstler, or Jane Jacobs and go to town.
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Re: The plan to spur Downtown dining includes incentives for restaurants
« Reply #9 on: January 17, 2020, 11:07:26 AM »
Get the public space right and the private space will take care of itself.

That's the tangible thing that most places we beam about today, made the initiative to invest and get right, as far back as the 1990s and early 2000s.

We have that with Laura Street and East Bay Street, so this program on top of those strips is a good thing. Tackling the core blocks of Hogan and Adams should become priorities.
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Re: The plan to spur Downtown dining includes incentives for restaurants
« Reply #10 on: January 17, 2020, 11:19:15 AM »
Lol, better use of incentives than $200 million in hard cash for Lot J.

One can't help but imagine, how something like this could have helped fill the Landing up with local businesses. Oh well.

The Landing was part of the problem

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Re: The plan to spur Downtown dining includes incentives for restaurants
« Reply #11 on: January 17, 2020, 11:48:49 AM »
No it wasn't. That's like saying the Bostwick Building was a problem before Cowford Chophouse opened in it.

The Landing was a building. Buildings are never a part of a problem. How you use spaces can be either problems or solutions.
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Re: The plan to spur Downtown dining includes incentives for restaurants
« Reply #12 on: January 17, 2020, 11:56:41 AM »
Man what a refreshing article to read. I love this. This is how you build synergy. I particularly liked the expansion of established restaurants in our area.

Also, my mind immediately went to the Landing. Imagine having these cluster of local restaurants paired with an adaptive reuse of the Landing being a local seafood/farmers market (which is what I really wanted to happen) where the restaurants buy into the various vendors coming from the landing. But I digress.
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Re: The plan to spur Downtown dining includes incentives for restaurants
« Reply #13 on: January 18, 2020, 09:34:33 AM »
Lol, better use of incentives than $200 million in hard cash for Lot J.

One can't help but imagine, how something like this could have helped fill the Landing up with local businesses. Oh well.
Lol, better use of incentives than $200 million in hard cash for Lot J.

One can't help but imagine, how something like this could have helped fill the Landing up with local businesses. Oh well.

The Landing was part of the problem

The Landing was part of the problem

Please explain. How was the Landing part of the problem? I think a trashy empty space added to our huge collection of empty riverfront spaces is the real part of the problem.