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Re: A Look At JEA's Plans For Downtown
« Reply #15 on: September 24, 2019, 08:35:56 AM »
Does the $2.2 Billion in debt include the Pension or just the usual stuff bonds pay for like parks and infrastructure?
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Re: A Look At JEA's Plans For Downtown
« Reply #16 on: October 24, 2019, 07:36:10 AM »
I'm a little confused on why they would sink money into a building its they are things in thinking about  selling jea.

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Re: A Look At JEA's Plans For Downtown
« Reply #17 on: October 24, 2019, 09:39:42 AM »
I'm a little confused on why they would sink money into a building its they are things in thinking about  selling jea.

Who knows what they are thinking, but I read somewhere that continuing on the lease was part of the sale.

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Re: A Look At JEA's Plans For Downtown
« Reply #18 on: October 25, 2019, 09:39:09 AM »
Design of new JEA headquarters gets a closer look from DDRB







Full article: https://www.jaxdailyrecord.com/article/design-of-new-jea-headquarters-gets-a-closer-look-from-ddrb

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Re: A Look At JEA's Plans For Downtown
« Reply #19 on: October 25, 2019, 09:46:01 AM »
^That'll make a real nice HQ for 3 years until FPL relocates merges it to Juno Beach.
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Re: A Look At JEA's Plans For Downtown
« Reply #20 on: October 25, 2019, 09:46:48 AM »
I'm a little confused on why they would sink money into a building its they are things in thinking about  selling jea.

JEA will only be leasing the building.

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Re: A Look At JEA's Plans For Downtown
« Reply #21 on: October 25, 2019, 10:07:43 AM »
Just curious, do we see a universe where Jacksonville citizens would actually vote in favor of selling JEA?

Is a $400 utility credit and an early payoff of the Better Jacksonville Plan (with no sales tax impact because of the pension plan hike) enough to win a popular vote?

The mayor hasn't even made any grand promises about using the proceeds to help disadvantaged neighborhoods, or rebuild our schools and infrastructure, or invest in mass transit. Just put it in a lockbox and pad our annual budget from the interest.

This can't actually pass, can it?

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Re: A Look At JEA's Plans For Downtown
« Reply #22 on: October 25, 2019, 10:14:44 AM »
Just curious, do we see a universe where Jacksonville citizens would actually vote in favor of selling JEA?

Is a $400 utility credit and an early payoff of the Better Jacksonville Plan (with no sales tax impact because of the pension plan hike) enough to win a popular vote?

The mayor hasn't even made any grand promises about using the proceeds to help disadvantaged neighborhoods, or rebuild our schools and infrastructure, or invest in mass transit. Just put it in a lockbox and pad our annual budget from the interest.

This can't actually pass, can it?

Oh yeah it can. It'll be more about the year or so of constant ads pushing the sale, not to mention continued obfuscation about what'll really happen. So far, the ads have suggested they're willing to spend a lot of money to push this through. They don't appear to know what they're doing right now, but they're just getting started.
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Re: A Look At JEA's Plans For Downtown
« Reply #23 on: October 25, 2019, 11:08:58 AM »
Just curious, do we see a universe where Jacksonville citizens would actually vote in favor of selling JEA?

Is a $400 utility credit and an early payoff of the Better Jacksonville Plan (with no sales tax impact because of the pension plan hike) enough to win a popular vote?

The mayor hasn't even made any grand promises about using the proceeds to help disadvantaged neighborhoods, or rebuild our schools and infrastructure, or invest in mass transit. Just put it in a lockbox and pad our annual budget from the interest.

This can't actually pass, can it?

It's $350 per utility service, so most customers will actually get $1050 (electricity, water, sewer), with irrigation customers getting even more, which is probably more than enough for them to sell their future down the river.

Plus, you're assuming this actually ever goes to a voter referendum. If the powers-that-be don't think the PR push has moved the needle enough by next year, expect all those lawyers to find a new definition of the word "shall" just like what happened to the school board.

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Re: A Look At JEA's Plans For Downtown
« Reply #24 on: October 25, 2019, 11:49:24 AM »
Just curious, do we see a universe where Jacksonville citizens would actually vote in favor of selling JEA?

Is a $400 utility credit and an early payoff of the Better Jacksonville Plan (with no sales tax impact because of the pension plan hike) enough to win a popular vote?

The mayor hasn't even made any grand promises about using the proceeds to help disadvantaged neighborhoods, or rebuild our schools and infrastructure, or invest in mass transit. Just put it in a lockbox and pad our annual budget from the interest.

This can't actually pass, can it?

Oh, I am sure we will see those promises in the referendum campaign.  They won't have any intention of living up to them, and will probably make sure the ads and speeches have enough weasel words so they won't be outright "lying." I mean Curry and Company would NEVER lie, would he?

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Re: A Look At JEA's Plans For Downtown
« Reply #25 on: October 25, 2019, 12:38:03 PM »
Just curious, do we see a universe where Jacksonville citizens would actually vote in favor of selling JEA?

Is a $400 utility credit and an early payoff of the Better Jacksonville Plan (with no sales tax impact because of the pension plan hike) enough to win a popular vote?

The mayor hasn't even made any grand promises about using the proceeds to help disadvantaged neighborhoods, or rebuild our schools and infrastructure, or invest in mass transit. Just put it in a lockbox and pad our annual budget from the interest.

This can't actually pass, can it?

Oh yeah it can. It'll be more about the year or so of constant ads pushing the sale, not to mention continued obfuscation about what'll really happen. So far, the ads have suggested they're willing to spend a lot of money to push this through. They don't appear to know what they're doing right now, but they're just getting started.

Has UNF done any polling specific to JEA, do you know?

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Re: A Look At JEA's Plans For Downtown
« Reply #26 on: October 25, 2019, 01:03:58 PM »
Just curious, do we see a universe where Jacksonville citizens would actually vote in favor of selling JEA?

Is a $400 utility credit and an early payoff of the Better Jacksonville Plan (with no sales tax impact because of the pension plan hike) enough to win a popular vote?

The mayor hasn't even made any grand promises about using the proceeds to help disadvantaged neighborhoods, or rebuild our schools and infrastructure, or invest in mass transit. Just put it in a lockbox and pad our annual budget from the interest.

This can't actually pass, can it?

Oh yeah it can. It'll be more about the year or so of constant ads pushing the sale, not to mention continued obfuscation about what'll really happen. So far, the ads have suggested they're willing to spend a lot of money to push this through. They don't appear to know what they're doing right now, but they're just getting started.

Has UNF done any polling specific to JEA, do you know?

Yes, polls show a wide majority against the sale. But again, that’s before the media blitz.
Do you believe that when the blue jay or another bird sings and the body is trembling, that is a signal that people are coming or something important is about to happen?

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Re: A Look At JEA's Plans For Downtown
« Reply #27 on: December 11, 2019, 01:55:50 PM »
JEA Headquarters project is up for final DDRB approval tomorrow. Here's a look at the ground floor plan. In addition to the garage retail, there's also space for a deli/coffee shop at Adams and Pearl. Overall, the Ryan concept appears to be a niche above what we commonly see being proposed in downtown.





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Re: A Look At JEA's Plans For Downtown
« Reply #28 on: December 11, 2019, 02:19:07 PM »
^Nice to see some good news from JEA!
Do you believe that when the blue jay or another bird sings and the body is trembling, that is a signal that people are coming or something important is about to happen?