The Ford on Bay

[thelakelander]

The Related design appears to be a variation of the project they built in downtown Tampa a couple of years ago:

[marcuscnelson]

Surprise: Jacobs submitted another unsolicited bid to build a convention center, which prompted Boyer to say that it could be a decade before it makes sense… and also that we should have approved Lot J?

https://www.jaxdailyrecord.com/article/dia-chief-new-downtown-convention-center-up-to-10-years-away

[JaGoaT]

The Hardwick has my vote 

Need to see something different than the cookie cutter apartments that have springing up recently, the southeast one does not seem realistic

Carter


Already imagining the skyline extending with the Hardwick and new Berkman

[landfall]

Those pillars look very soviet brutalist to me. Those areas also IMO will attract homeless, anti social behavior congregration underneath away from the sun, rain and generally in spaces that are less visible.

[marcuscnelson]

I'm happy that Atkins changed his mind and decided to participate in the RFP process. It'll be interesting to see how things unfold

I find it interesting that Atkins was initially insisting that the entire master plan had to go ahead at once, but is now piecing it off. That never made sense in the first place, I've never heard of a master plan you had to finance all upfront versus being a guideline that you stick to over time.

[marcuscnelson]

The Hardwick has my vote 

Need to see something different than the cookie cutter apartments that have springing up recently, the southeast one does not seem realistic

Carter

Personally I'm not a fan of the Hardwick's aesthetics, the whole "50s Miami Beach hotel" vibe doesn't really do it for me.

[jcjohnpaint]

Surprise: Jacobs submitted another unsolicited bid to build a convention center, which prompted Boyer to say that it could be a decade before it makes sense… and also that we should have approved Lot J?

https://www.jaxdailyrecord.com/article/dia-chief-new-downtown-convention-center-up-to-10-years-away

Was thinking the same thing.

[thelakelander]

That timeline and the belief that Lot J gets DT closer to needing a convention center is ridiculous. We're already in the business, our facilities are just substandard and outdated. We don't need anything near the size of the Jacob's proposal either. That thing is way outside of the scale we can support. Also, when do people think there will be a magic benchmark of restaurants and bars downtown that someone will then say, we've arrived? That's as false as the 10,000 population goal for vibrancy that people continue to chase.

[fsu813]

I'm happy that Atkins changed his mind and decided to participate in the RFP process. It'll be interesting to see how things unfold

I find it interesting that Atkins was initially insisting that the entire master plan had to go ahead at once, but is now piecing it off. That never made sense in the first place, I've never heard of a master plan you had to finance all upfront versus being a guideline that you stick to over time.

Someone was told to get in line. No special treatment.

[vicupstate]

Why didn't Jacobs submit its convention center proposal under the RFP process?

[Steve]

Why didn't Jacobs submit its convention center proposal under the RFP process?

They did. Committee voted them highest, but they decided not to pursue any of them.

[vicupstate]

Why didn't Jacobs submit its convention center proposal under the RFP process?

They did. Committee voted them highest, but they decided not to pursue any of them.

I meant the newest RFP that is still underway.

[heights unknown]

Carter or Southeast are my picks/renderings that I like best.

[thelakelander]

Why didn't Jacobs submit its convention center proposal under the RFP process?

They did. Committee voted them highest, but they decided not to pursue any of them.

I meant the newest RFP that is still underway.

It would have also been a waste of their time because the newest RFP didn't include a convention center as a use. So responding to it by not including what was specified in it, would have got them tossed out anyway.

[vicupstate]

Why didn't Jacobs submit its convention center proposal under the RFP process?

They did. Committee voted them highest, but they decided not to pursue any of them.

I meant the newest RFP that is still underway.

It would have also been a waste of their time because the newest RFP didn't include a convention center as a use. So responding to it by not including what was specified in it, would have got them tossed out anyway.

Thanks. I thought it was more open-ended than that.