Author Topic: JEA Board to Consider Mass Layoffs/Privitization  (Read 8972 times)

Bill Hoff

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Re: JEA Board to Consider Mass Layoffs/Privitization
« Reply #60 on: August 01, 2019, 07:56:22 AM »
Not wanting to maintain your yard is a common theme in Riverside/San Marco/Springfield.

Hands off my property rights, socialist!

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Re: JEA Board to Consider Mass Layoffs/Privitization
« Reply #61 on: August 01, 2019, 10:43:35 AM »
Not wanting to maintain your yard is a common theme in Riverside/San Marco/Springfield.

Hands off my property rights, socialist!

Not sure if this is sarcasim or not, but if it isn't - you have to love the irony of RAP, SPAR, and whatever other groups are there that routinely oppose other people wanting to make changes to their homes.
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Re: JEA Board to Consider Mass Layoffs/Privitization
« Reply #62 on: August 01, 2019, 10:48:54 AM »
Not wanting to maintain your yard is a common theme in Riverside/San Marco/Springfield.

Hands off my property rights, socialist!

Not sure if this is sarcasim or not, but if it isn't - you have to love the irony of RAP, SPAR, and whatever other groups are there that routinely oppose other people wanting to make changes to their homes.

When it comes to Riverside, Avondale, and Springfield it’s actually the law that does this, not RAP or SPAR

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Re: JEA Board to Consider Mass Layoffs/Privitization
« Reply #63 on: August 01, 2019, 11:43:32 AM »
Not wanting to maintain your yard is a common theme in Riverside/San Marco/Springfield.

Hands off my property rights, socialist!

Not sure if this is sarcasim or not, but if it isn't - you have to love the irony of RAP, SPAR, and whatever other groups are there that routinely oppose other people wanting to make changes to their homes.

When it comes to Riverside, Avondale, and Springfield it’s actually the law that does this, not RAP or SPAR


That isn't my understanding from people involved in Historic Preservation groups in other cities, but I'm not personally involved so I'm not in a position to confirm or deny your claim.
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Re: JEA Board to Consider Mass Layoffs/Privitization
« Reply #64 on: August 01, 2019, 01:55:34 PM »
Not wanting to maintain your yard is a common theme in Riverside/San Marco/Springfield.

Hands off my property rights, socialist!

Not sure if this is sarcasim or not, but if it isn't - you have to love the irony of RAP, SPAR, and whatever other groups are there that routinely oppose other people wanting to make changes to their homes.

'Twas simply sarcasm. Which I enjoy.

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Re: JEA Board to Consider Mass Layoffs/Privitization
« Reply #65 on: November 29, 2019, 08:45:08 AM »
This keeps getting better and better:

https://www.jaxdailyrecord.com/article/the-mendenhall-report-jea-board-didnt-know-cost-of-incentive-program

Aaron Zahn clearly has no idea what he's doing, and the board is unimpressive either. They had a $636M incentive program, and the Board didn't realize it and Zahn thought it made sense to move forward until word got out? Holy hell.

I get that the board didn't see final numbers. That alone isn't unusual. But the board should have seen enough figures so that could at least back into a ballpark number. Sounds like no one on the board did the math here. If they did, then they are more than negligent.

Zahn on the other hand is a special kind of stupid. Playing Devil's Advocate: Even if the calculations were an honest mistake (I can't see how), once he realized how much that would add up to be he should have, himself, asked the board to withdraw the program. He's doing it now....after it's public. At a minimum, the optics are terrible here.

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Re: JEA Board to Consider Mass Layoffs/Privitization
« Reply #66 on: November 29, 2019, 08:52:52 AM »
The whole JEA thing makes the Corrine Brown stuff look like peanuts. We have some big double standards in this town.
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Re: JEA Board to Consider Mass Layoffs/Privitization
« Reply #67 on: November 29, 2019, 03:08:37 PM »
Wasn’t the Brown stuff involving Federal charges?

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Re: JEA Board to Consider Mass Layoffs/Privitization
« Reply #68 on: November 29, 2019, 03:52:10 PM »
Wasn’t the Brown stuff involving Federal charges?

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Re: JEA Board to Consider Mass Layoffs/Privitization
« Reply #69 on: December 07, 2019, 03:33:52 PM »
https://www.jaxdailyrecord.com/article/city-council-president-says-he-may-support-resolution-urging-the-jea-board-to-end-effort-to-sell-utility

Sounds like Scott Wilson is sold on the bill to ask JEA to stop the madness, but not necessarily on passing it as an Emergency. I’m thinking Jackson’s reasoning is to get it to them before their next board meeting.


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Re: JEA Board to Consider Mass Layoffs/Privitization
« Reply #70 on: December 07, 2019, 03:49:08 PM »
Even better....JEA moved the next round of presentations to Atlanta

https://www.jacksonville.com/news/20191207/jea-moves-sales-talks-to-atlanta-draft-document-shows-sales-pitch-given-to-interested-buyers

JEA says it’s to make it easier for international attendees. The ATL-JAX flight is almost hourly from 6am to midnight. So basically these companies who are considering making a multi billion dollar investment can’t have a connecting flight?

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Re: JEA Board to Consider Mass Layoffs/Privitization
« Reply #71 on: December 07, 2019, 04:43:38 PM »
Even better....JEA moved the next round of presentations to Atlanta

https://www.jacksonville.com/news/20191207/jea-moves-sales-talks-to-atlanta-draft-document-shows-sales-pitch-given-to-interested-buyers

JEA says it’s to make it easier for international attendees. The ATL-JAX flight is almost hourly from 6am to midnight. So basically these companies who are considering making a multi billion dollar investment can’t have a connecting flight?
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Re: JEA Board to Consider Mass Layoffs/Privitization
« Reply #72 on: December 07, 2019, 06:30:55 PM »
Even better....JEA moved the next round of presentations to Atlanta

https://www.jacksonville.com/news/20191207/jea-moves-sales-talks-to-atlanta-draft-document-shows-sales-pitch-given-to-interested-buyers

JEA says it’s to make it easier for international attendees. The ATL-JAX flight is almost hourly from 6am to midnight. So basically these companies who are considering making a multi billion dollar investment can’t have a connecting flight?

What a clown show. It's hard to believe they can't figure out early on how bad the optics of the things they keep doing are and how it takes away whatever credibility is left of the process.
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Re: JEA Board to Consider Mass Layoffs/Privitization
« Reply #73 on: December 10, 2019, 01:38:25 AM »
Even better....JEA moved the next round of presentations to Atlanta

https://www.jacksonville.com/news/20191207/jea-moves-sales-talks-to-atlanta-draft-document-shows-sales-pitch-given-to-interested-buyers

JEA says it’s to make it easier for international attendees. The ATL-JAX flight is almost hourly from 6am to midnight. So basically these companies who are considering making a multi billion dollar investment can’t have a connecting flight?

What a clown show. It's hard to believe they can't figure out early on how bad the optics of the things they keep doing are and how it takes away whatever credibility is left of the process.

Do they care about the optics, though? From talking to my family and friends who live in Jax, the privatization of JEA (and the subsequent raising of rates) is a foregone conclusion. Is nobody up in arms over it? If nobody cares enough to raise a stink, then JEA certainly doesn't care about the optics. I mean, the optics of a barren grass lot where one of Jacksonville's trademark riverfront buildings once stood are terrible but... well, there we go.

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Re: JEA Board to Consider Mass Layoffs/Privitization
« Reply #74 on: December 10, 2019, 10:07:34 AM »
Even better....JEA moved the next round of presentations to Atlanta

https://www.jacksonville.com/news/20191207/jea-moves-sales-talks-to-atlanta-draft-document-shows-sales-pitch-given-to-interested-buyers

JEA says it’s to make it easier for international attendees. The ATL-JAX flight is almost hourly from 6am to midnight. So basically these companies who are considering making a multi billion dollar investment can’t have a connecting flight?

What a clown show. It's hard to believe they can't figure out early on how bad the optics of the things they keep doing are and how it takes away whatever credibility is left of the process.

Do they care about the optics, though? From talking to my family and friends who live in Jax, the privatization of JEA (and the subsequent raising of rates) is a foregone conclusion. Is nobody up in arms over it? If nobody cares enough to raise a stink, then JEA certainly doesn't care about the optics. I mean, the optics of a barren grass lot where one of Jacksonville's trademark riverfront buildings once stood are terrible but... well, there we go.

I completely disagree it’s a foregone conclusion. I bet if council voted today, they’d vote no.