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Re: Welcome to Rockville Leaving Jax for Daytona
« Reply #15 on: July 10, 2019, 09:00:18 AM »
Just playing Devil's Advocate. Seemed like mostly everyone was applauding the go ahead to tear down the Hart Bridge ramp for future development (which I'm fine with). Doing that obviously affected Rockville (unless there is some vast conspiracy that I don't know about). It's like damn if you do, damn if you don't....

I'm not 100 percent sold that Rockville will not come back to Jax. The speedway is a monsterous and formidable venue, but if we get it right with the infrastructure in the future, I can see Rockville coming back (the city and promoter aren't exactly on bad terms far as I know).

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Do you believe that when the blue jay or another bird sings and the body is trembling, that is a signal that people are coming or something important is about to happen?

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Re: Welcome to Rockville Leaving Jax for Daytona
« Reply #18 on: December 10, 2019, 02:50:25 PM »
^Don't worry, they're washed up. It's the 21st century now and we're winners. Big things are coming and the skyline is changing!
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Re: Welcome to Rockville Leaving Jax for Daytona
« Reply #19 on: December 10, 2019, 06:14:40 PM »
Don't know what was said, because of TU's paywall

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Re: Welcome to Rockville Leaving Jax for Daytona
« Reply #20 on: December 11, 2019, 06:48:26 AM »
Sadly...This will be the first year in many that I will not be going.  Daytona just too far...
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Re: Welcome to Rockville Leaving Jax for Daytona
« Reply #21 on: December 11, 2019, 02:21:31 PM »
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Re: Welcome to Rockville Leaving Jax for Daytona
« Reply #22 on: December 11, 2019, 03:09:32 PM »
Metallica is a big get, but I don;t see much else in the lineup that stands out to me or which would make me want to see it if it were in Jax. I can see why they're doing it in Daytona, the whole area is gonna be all messed up with the Hart Bridge Expressway project being constructed next year

I hope it comes back, even if I do think a lot of the artists are metallic dad-rock/buttrock

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Re: Welcome to Rockville Leaving Jax for Daytona
« Reply #23 on: December 11, 2019, 04:37:58 PM »
Metallica is a big get, but I don;t see much else in the lineup that stands out to me or which would make me want to see it if it were in Jax. I can see why they're doing it in Daytona, the whole area is gonna be all messed up with the Hart Bridge Expressway project being constructed next year

I hope it comes back, even if I do think a lot of the artists are metallic dad-rock/buttrock

I'm The Jaxson's chief critic of our city venues' tendency toward dad rock, so I'm with you. I've never been to Rockville and am not going to start now that it's in Daytona. But like you say, just because it's not for me doesn't mean it's not a big deal for a lot of people. Rockville was always huge and drew people from all over. One of my nephews from Bradenton goes every year with his friends. It's a real bummer to have lost a proven event.
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Re: Welcome to Rockville Leaving Jax for Daytona
« Reply #24 on: December 11, 2019, 05:03:04 PM »
^10,000 hotel rooms annually, up in smoke.

$15 million in local economic impact lost.

Can you imagine being a local hotelier? Not only are the bed taxes you collect potentially being used by the city to fund competing hotel development at Lot J/Shipyards, but the anticipated construction of said project has also caused 10,000 rooms to flee to Daytona.

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Re: Welcome to Rockville Leaving Jax for Daytona
« Reply #25 on: December 11, 2019, 08:17:43 PM »
^Don't worry, they're washed up. It's the 21st century now and we're winners. Big things are coming and the skyline is changing!

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Re: Welcome to Rockville Leaving Jax for Daytona
« Reply #26 on: December 12, 2019, 04:54:58 PM »
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Re: Welcome to Rockville Leaving Jax for Daytona
« Reply #27 on: December 12, 2019, 06:24:58 PM »
It seems like not many cities in Florida got hit harder economically in the 2000's than Daytona Beach. Some of the main culprits for the downturn was NASCAR's waning popularity and the 2008 financial crisis. Here's the very dramatic roller coaster ride than Daytona Beach city's population has been going through. They have since rebounded greatly.

1990___61,921___14.3%
2000___ 64,112___ 3.5%
2010___61,005___-4.8%
2018___68,866___12.9%

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daytona_Beach,_Florida

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Re: Welcome to Rockville Leaving Jax for Daytona
« Reply #28 on: December 12, 2019, 06:51:42 PM »
Daytona's numbers are deceiving.  It's the urban core for coastal Volusia County. For years it was built out, so its new growth spilled out to adjacent suburbs with available land, particularly Ormond Beach, Port Orange and Deltona. Recent growth is occurring in newly annexed land along and west of I-95. Like Jax, the older core (in this case, most of Daytona east of Clyde Morris or Nova Rd) could use an economic shot in the arm.

Port Orange

1990___35,317___88.3%
2000___45,823___29.7%
2010___56,048___22.3%
2018___64,252___14.6%

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Port_Orange,_Florida




Ormond Beach

1990___29,721___38.6%
2000___36,301___22.5%
2010___36,301___5.1%
2018___43,475___14.0%

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ormond_Beach,_Florida




Deltona

1990___50,828___223.5%
2000___69,543___ 36.8%
2010___85,182___22.5%
2018___91,951___7.9%

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deltona,_Florida
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Re: Welcome to Rockville Leaving Jax for Daytona
« Reply #29 on: December 12, 2019, 09:43:15 PM »
Hopefully they’ll come back to Jax. There in a good location to get both die hard fans from both Jax and Orlando which might persuade them to stay.