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Re: 208 North Laura Street Available
« Reply #1 on: July 03, 2019, 10:48:50 AM »
Yes, but not totally understanding the plan for shifting the visitors center to a spot where tourist rarely walk to and a place that you can't see from the street. As a matter fact, I'm not understanding or see a rational nexus for much of what's going on down there right now. It's like a frankenstein-mix of parts and isolated projects.
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Re: 208 North Laura Street Available
« Reply #2 on: July 03, 2019, 11:43:22 AM »
Where do tourist to Jacksonville even go that the Visit Jacksonville office could target them?  The airport makes sense as it is a gateway point of entry but where do Jax tourist cluster?  The Town Center?
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Re: 208 North Laura Street Available
« Reply #3 on: July 03, 2019, 12:10:26 PM »
Yes, but not totally understanding the plan for shifting the visitors center to a spot where tourist rarely walk to and a place that you can't see from the street.

Strictly cost.

Significantly cheaper to have the visitor's center and office space in city-owned buildings, freeing up additional budget to go toward marketing Jacksonville as a tourist destination.

Personally, there's 2,500 square feet of retail space in the main library that I think would have been a better alternative in a city-owned building, assuming some visibility was added from the sidewalk.

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As a matter fact, I'm not understanding or see a rational nexus for much of what's going on down there right now. It's like a frankenstein-mix of parts and isolated projects.

My favorite part is how all the dubious isolated projects build off each other.

The questionable warship justifies its existence by citing the unfunded Veterans Park.

The Dave and Busters on steroids justifies its existence by citing the questionable warship and the imaginary mega convention center.

The imaginary mega convention center solves the lack of nightlife by citing the theoritical entertainment complex on contaminated land which itself is predicated on the yet-to-be-RFPd removal of a functional highway.

Accessibility for the theoritical entertainment complex relies on robotic clownbuses that may or may not have even been invented yet.

Routes for the clown cars have been designed to connect mega-developments on both sides of the river that do not currently exist.

And meanwhile, you still can't find a cup of coffee downtown after 5:30 PM.

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Re: 208 North Laura Street Available
« Reply #4 on: July 03, 2019, 01:38:43 PM »
Yes, but not totally understanding the plan for shifting the visitors center to a spot where tourist rarely walk to and a place that you can't see from the street.

Strictly cost.

Significantly cheaper to have the visitor's center and office space in city-owned buildings, freeing up additional budget to go toward marketing Jacksonville as a tourist destination.

Hmm....we have such the building and it is in a centralized location and not the ass of another building where only lost tourist would stumble upon. Hint.....it's shaped like a horseshoe and has an orange roof. If we're going to be serious about this stuff, we need to come with an A game. For comparison's sake, here's Baltimore's visitors center:




It's the blue building on the Inner Harbor just behind to two small yellow boats




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As a matter fact, I'm not understanding or see a rational nexus for much of what's going on down there right now. It's like a frankenstein-mix of parts and isolated projects.

My favorite part is how all the dubious isolated projects build off each other.

The questionable warship justifies its existence by citing the unfunded Veterans Park.

The Dave and Busters on steroids justifies its existence by citing the questionable warship and the imaginary mega convention center.

The imaginary mega convention center solves the lack of nightlife by citing the theoritical entertainment complex on contaminated land which itself is predicated on the yet-to-be-RFPd removal of a functional highway.

Accessibility for the theoritical entertainment complex relies on robotic clownbuses that may or may not have even been invented yet.

Routes for the clown cars have been designed to connect mega-developments on both sides of the river that do not currently exist.

And meanwhile, you still can't find a cup of coffee downtown after 5:30 PM.
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^This! Can we just get one single block right and active now as opposed to 2030? Is that too much to ask?
« Last Edit: July 03, 2019, 01:54:39 PM by thelakelander »
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Re: 208 North Laura Street Available
« Reply #5 on: July 03, 2019, 01:50:50 PM »
Hmm....we have such the building and it is in a centralized location and not the ass of another building where only lost tourist would stumble upon. Hint.....it's shaped like a horseshoe and has an orange roof.

$20 million to tear down the Landing, meanwhile:

https://www.jacksonville.com/news/20190702/clara-white-mission-considers-cutting-meal-job-programs-due-to-funding-shortage

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Re: 208 North Laura Street Available
« Reply #6 on: July 03, 2019, 01:55:38 PM »
^So I guess this means no tiny homes? Regarding Genovars Hall and CWM's Culinary Arts Program, I've always felt they could be a complimentary mix.

Also, the crazy amount of spending regarding the Landing, City Hall Annex, the Hart Bridge demos, etc. does prove one thing. Money isn't the issue with the obstacles and challenges facing downtown.
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Re: 208 North Laura Street Available
« Reply #7 on: July 03, 2019, 01:57:11 PM »
Yes, but not totally understanding the plan for shifting the visitors center to a spot where tourist rarely walk to and a place that you can't see from the street.

Strictly cost.

Significantly cheaper to have the visitor's center and office space in city-owned buildings, freeing up additional budget to go toward marketing Jacksonville as a tourist destination.

Personally, there's 2,500 square feet of retail space in the main library that I think would have been a better alternative in a city-owned building, assuming some visibility was added from the sidewalk.

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As a matter fact, I'm not understanding or see a rational nexus for much of what's going on down there right now. It's like a frankenstein-mix of parts and isolated projects.

My favorite part is how all the dubious isolated projects build off each other.

The questionable warship justifies its existence by citing the unfunded Veterans Park.

The Dave and Busters on steroids justifies its existence by citing the questionable warship and the imaginary mega convention center.

The imaginary mega convention center solves the lack of nightlife by citing the theoritical entertainment complex on contaminated land which itself is predicated on the yet-to-be-RFPd removal of a functional highway.

Accessibility for the theoritical entertainment complex relies on robotic clownbuses that may or may not have even been invented yet.

Routes for the clown cars have been designed to connect mega-developments on both sides of the river that do not currently exist.

And meanwhile, you still can't find a cup of coffee downtown after 5:30 PM.

Holy Cow!!! That needs to be on a t-shirt.
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Re: 208 North Laura Street Available
« Reply #8 on: July 05, 2019, 08:41:11 AM »

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Re: 208 North Laura Street Available
« Reply #9 on: July 05, 2019, 10:02:19 AM »
Another soon to be prime opening on Laura:

https://www.jaxdailyrecord.com/article/downtown-centerstate-bank-is-relocating

Don't love vacancies, but if we can fill it with something opened on weekends or after 5 then awesome. CenterState still has like 8 years left on the lease so they should be somewhat motivated to find a replacement.

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Re: 208 North Laura Street Available
« Reply #10 on: July 05, 2019, 10:18:06 AM »
^Yes, that's a prime corner and it is a great opportunity for something that activates that corner at night and on weekends.
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