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Re: JEA hunt for headquarters site is silent on evacuation risk
« Reply #45 on: January 23, 2019, 08:51:27 AM »
Yes! Sucks for those that put money and time into responding and actually thinking they had a chance at being shortlisted.
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Re: JEA hunt for headquarters site is silent on evacuation risk
« Reply #46 on: January 23, 2019, 10:52:41 AM »
I just can't get on board with Lot J.

Also, would like to see the renderings for Kings Avenue. I know that Balanky wanted to develop that space but JTA and Balanky were going through litigation of the property and how it is used. Maybe this can be a mixed use of office and residential? Those were his initial intentions of the site.
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Re: JEA hunt for headquarters site is silent on evacuation risk
« Reply #47 on: January 23, 2019, 11:37:21 AM »
If the grading was purely objective, you've got to think that Lot J might have been the very first project cut. JEA wants to start building by early next year, but right now, the entire Cordish development is purely speculative. There's no deal in place with the city. There's not even a basic understanding of whether the property is suitable for development without significant remediation. I wonder how JEA could even select Lot J in early February if the economic development agreement between the city/Cordish/Iguana isn't yet in place (late-spring/early-summer is now the rumor for the deal being signed).

I honestly don't love any of the options. Lot J instantly offsets all the gains the northbank core has made with VyStar, the Times-Union, etc. by moving 800 jobs to the periphary of downtown. Kings Ave Station also moves 800 jobs out of the northbank core, but at least it's closer to the CBD and connected to the Skyway (until the Skyway is replaced with clown cars). And building on that parcel by the Courthouse via land swap virtually guarantees the demolition of the old JEA Tower, unless Atkins redevelops it into multifamily housing, which he's expressed interest in previously.


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Re: JEA hunt for headquarters site is silent on evacuation risk
« Reply #48 on: January 23, 2019, 12:32:14 PM »
To save the JEA Tower, there needs to be public outcry and a push for adaptive reuse/RFP to be put out before the implosion party group comes out of the woodworks. That process needs to happen like yesterday. Politicians back off when when there's no public support.
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Re: JEA hunt for headquarters site is silent on evacuation risk
« Reply #49 on: January 23, 2019, 01:30:59 PM »
You can bet there is soil contamination in Lot J.

Would be nice if Atkins can get the JEA Tower in a land swap deal at bargain rate. Would be a nice win to close out the decade with the potential of residential development there instead of demolition.
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Re: JEA hunt for headquarters site is silent on evacuation risk
« Reply #50 on: January 23, 2019, 04:05:16 PM »
You can bet there is soil contamination in Lot J.

There is, however it was "clean" enough for usage as a parking lot during the development of the current stadium. If/when Lot J is used for anything else, environmental abatement will be necessary.

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Re: JEA hunt for headquarters site is silent on evacuation risk
« Reply #51 on: January 23, 2019, 06:09:09 PM »
JEA Narrows Down the Site list to 3:

1. Lot J
2. Redevelop Existing Building/Build on the W Adams Street Lot
3. Kings Avenue

https://www.jaxdailyrecord.com/article/jea-pares-list-of-new-headquarters-sites-to-three
Disturbing, purely and intensely disturbing.
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Re: JEA hunt for headquarters site is silent on evacuation risk
« Reply #52 on: January 23, 2019, 06:10:24 PM »
I am not familiar with the Kings Ave site proposal.  Is this on the parking lot across the street from the Bearded Pig?  The address listed on the Daily Record Article lists the address of the two hotels already there (1201 Kings Ave).

I haven't seen the rendering but that's my understanding. It's a good development site...if it didn't involve taking existing people out of the core.
Does that mean demolition of the existing buildings and building a new office tower?
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Re: JEA hunt for headquarters site is silent on evacuation risk
« Reply #53 on: January 23, 2019, 06:16:33 PM »
https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjR1rjs34LgAhVDbK0KHYsqC5MQzPwBegQIARAC&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.jaxdailyrecord.com%2Farticle%2Fbalanky-plans-southbank-tower-with-gondolas-across-st-johns&psig=AOvVaw2TCErDtXnc2VJ1yu6XnsoO&ust=1548293220182750
I would be all for this if JEA decided to go this route; ditch the gondola thing, but residential, office, etc. in another tall tower on the Southbank is a super duper thought. My other choice would be the Adams Street Lot, adding a little more building density in that area.
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Re: JEA hunt for headquarters site is silent on evacuation risk
« Reply #54 on: January 23, 2019, 06:20:26 PM »
I just can't get on board with Lot J.

Also, would like to see the renderings for Kings Avenue. I know that Balanky wanted to develop that space but JTA and Balanky were going through litigation of the property and how it is used. Maybe this can be a mixed use of office and residential? Those were his initial intentions of the site.

I am not a fan, and don't like Lot J either. If they can get the Kings Avenue lot going, without the gondola idea, I am a staunch fan of that proposal, i.e., residential, office, etc., in a tower. Otherwise, ditch the gondola idea, and have Balanky and JEA work together to get it done on the southbank; and...please, a nice slender tall and appealing tower.
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Re: JEA hunt for headquarters site is silent on evacuation risk
« Reply #55 on: January 23, 2019, 06:23:02 PM »
I'm not sure any of these sites will result in a tower. Both Lot J and Adams Street concepts in recent months show something around 6 or 7 stories with a garage next to it as opposed to being integrated with it.
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Re: JEA hunt for headquarters site is silent on evacuation risk
« Reply #56 on: January 23, 2019, 06:56:23 PM »
I'm not sure any of these sites will result in a tower. Both Lot J and Adams Street concepts in recent months show something around 6 or 7 stories with a garage next to it as opposed to being integrated with it.
Yes Lake, I noticed that and acknowledge; I can hope and dream I guess. I would be happy if every vacant lot on the Northbank was built with something; too many pot holes in our downtown urban core. Let's hope for something spectacular and tall.
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Re: JEA hunt for headquarters site is silent on evacuation risk
« Reply #57 on: January 23, 2019, 07:21:16 PM »
Related: Khan is hosting a big fundraiser for Curry. But the site selection process is not affected, I'm sure : )

http://floridapolitics.com/archives/286272-khan-curry-funder



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Re: JEA hunt for headquarters site is silent on evacuation risk
« Reply #58 on: January 24, 2019, 10:27:20 AM »
Related: Khan is hosting a big fundraiser for Curry. But the site selection process is not affected, I'm sure : )

http://floridapolitics.com/archives/286272-khan-curry-funder


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Re: JEA hunt for headquarters site is silent on evacuation risk
« Reply #59 on: January 24, 2019, 03:13:22 PM »
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