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Re: English Pub in San Marco? Dog's Bollocks!
« Reply #75 on: June 08, 2019, 08:28:41 AM »
We did an "L" last night, Matthews>Rue>Posting House and PH was really busy. We should have gone home but the lure of PH was too great :)
 As expected, Mrs SMM loved it. Just need some food, and will be there a ton. Great to see such activity since that little stretch has been dark for a long time. I expect to see Curry there often as there is a great view of the grass field across the street!

 It appears they will be changing out the beers quite frequently as multiple had been changed since I went Wed.

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« Reply #76 on: June 08, 2019, 08:38:42 AM »
If anyone is watching their calories and want to estimate them when drinking craft, draft, or unmarked brews, most places post the ABV: Multiply the ABV X 2.5 X number of ounces to find the approximate amount of calories.

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« Reply #77 on: June 10, 2019, 09:41:23 AM »
All are at Total Wine, most are at European street.The "Posting house" seems to have none of these. Next time I drive past, I'm going to open the door and shout "Dog's Bollocks"!

Are you saying they should go buy some at total wine to sell at the bar??  That's illegal...  Total wine keeps hundreds of beers in stock, so it's no surprise they would have a better selection than a place with 14 taps.  They have Guinness, Old Speckled Hen, and another ESB that's name is escaping me.  I was there Saturday night and Sunday and they had changed 3 of the taps between those two times.  It sounds like they are really going through some beer, so even if they have an all British line up at one point it probably won't last.  They are also at the mercy of their distributor, so Boddington's may not be an option for them.

My thoughts on the bar: great alternative from the Friday night GxG crowd.  I have some personal tweaks I'd make to the decor (framing the tile back-splash better because currently it just abruptly stops. filling the currently blank walls), but overall I like the look.  The staff is very friendly and Riley does a great job making guests feel welcome.  I liked the draught list and had no problems with the high number of craft beers.  Yesterday I enjoyed a BPA and a Guinness.

Both times I was there Mr. Bean was on the tv.  I asked if they were playing the All Bean All the Time channel, but they said no it's a loop of physical British comedies that don't need audio to be enjoyed.  They will play sports by request on the front tv and the tv in the snug will be all sports. 

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Re: English Pub in San Marco? Dog's Bollocks!
« Reply #78 on: June 10, 2019, 10:06:41 AM »
All are at Total Wine, most are at European street.The "Posting house" seems to have none of these. Next time I drive past, I'm going to open the door and shout "Dog's Bollocks"!

Are you saying they should go buy some at total wine to sell at the bar??  That's illegal...  Total wine keeps hundreds of beers in stock, so it's no surprise they would have a better selection than a place with 14 taps.  They have Guinness, Old Speckled Hen, and another ESB that's name is escaping me.  I was there Saturday night and Sunday and they had changed 3 of the taps between those two times.  It sounds like they are really going through some beer, so even if they have an all British line up at one point it probably won't last.  They are also at the mercy of their distributor, so Boddington's may not be an option for them.

My thoughts on the bar: great alternative from the Friday night GxG crowd.  I have some personal tweaks I'd make to the decor (framing the tile back-splash better because currently it just abruptly stops. filling the currently blank walls), but overall I like the look.  The staff is very friendly and Riley does a great job making guests feel welcome.  I liked the draught list and had no problems with the high number of craft beers.  Yesterday I enjoyed a BPA and a Guinness.

Both times I was there Mr. Bean was on the tv.  I asked if they were playing the All Bean All the Time channel, but they said no it's a loop of physical British comedies that don't need audio to be enjoyed.  They will play sports by request on the front tv and the tv in the snug will be all sports.

The impression I got from his/her comment is that since the beer is available at Total Wine, it shouldn't be that hard for them to carry it.

As an aside, I don't think I've ever been to a pub in the UK that serves Boddington's or Newcastle on tap. I have long suspected Boddington's is like the Foster's of English beer.
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« Reply #79 on: June 10, 2019, 07:18:51 PM »

The impression I got from his/her comment is that since the beer is available at Total Wine, it shouldn't be that hard for them to carry it.

As an aside, I don't think I've ever been to a pub in the UK that serves Boddington's or Newcastle on tap. I have long suspected Boddington's is like the Foster's of English beer.
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I just went to European street today and they had Newcastle on tap. What I am saying is that if you market yourself as an English bar you should have a good selection of English beer. Let's put it in a different perspective. If I said I was opening a Mexican themed restaurant, and I had 1 or 2 Mexican dishes, 1 central American dish and 10 Chinese dishes would you say "Oh. yes, this is authentic Mexican" or would you say "Dog's Bollocks!"

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« Reply #80 on: June 10, 2019, 11:06:42 PM »
I also don’t fully grasp the “British” part of this pub, the beer they do have is better than most of the British beer you can get in the US.

Also, you may not be seeing Newcastle in British pubs because you’re not happening to go to pubs affiliated with Heineken NV. In Britain, there’s a terrible system where many if not most pubs are affiliated with the mega brewers and only carry their beer.
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Re: English Pub in San Marco? Dog's Bollocks!
« Reply #81 on: June 11, 2019, 02:11:00 AM »

The impression I got from his/her comment is that since the beer is available at Total Wine, it shouldn't be that hard for them to carry it.

As an aside, I don't think I've ever been to a pub in the UK that serves Boddington's or Newcastle on tap. I have long suspected Boddington's is like the Foster's of English beer.
I just went to European street today and they had Newcastle on tap. What I am saying is that if you market yourself as an English bar you should have a good selection of English beer. Let's put it in a different perspective. If I said I was opening a Mexican themed restaurant, and I had 1 or 2 Mexican dishes, 1 central American dish and 10 Chinese dishes would you say "Oh. yes, this is authentic Mexican" or would you say "Dog's Bollocks!"
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I think I got your point and wasn't trying to argue re Newcastle or Boddington's. That was just an observation, really.

I should, however, point out that the expression, "dog's bollocks" is meant as a positive thing, usually rendered as saying something (like this pub) is "the dog's bollocks."
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« Reply #82 on: June 11, 2019, 08:39:09 AM »

I should, however, point out that the expression, "dog's bollocks" is meant as a positive thing, usually rendered as saying something (like this pub) is "the dog's bollocks."

Wait. Some thought this was a negative thread title?!?  Bloody hell. I better go have a cup of tea.

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« Reply #83 on: June 11, 2019, 09:44:06 AM »
I also don’t fully grasp the “British” part of this pub, the beer they do have is better than most of the British beer you can get in the US.

Also, you may not be seeing Newcastle in British pubs because you’re not happening to go to pubs affiliated with Heineken NV. In Britain, there’s a terrible system where many if not most pubs are affiliated with the mega brewers and only carry their beer.

You're talking about a 'tied' pub (not sure if Heineken owns any pubs in the UK, tbh). But you still don't find Newcastle in free houses, either. The issue is that is is basically only available in a bottle in the UK.

Edit: a quick Google search has taught me that Heineken owns the "Star Pubs and Bars" group in the UK. Not sure how many of these there are.
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« Reply #84 on: June 11, 2019, 09:47:08 AM »
The owner's description of PH from her blog, this was created months before the place opened.

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"You've probably heard the news already...we're opening a bar!"......"we wanted to bring a modern flavor of Great Britain to our little corner of Jacksonville, FL, and we want it to be a space for our local community to gather and rest—just like traditional posting houses did in the old days for travelers (and their horses!)"......."The design is a modern take on a cozy, English pub, with a moody color palette and rich, layered textures. Along with the main bar area, we will have a semi-private room which we are naming "the snug." It will be cozy, comfortable and the perfect place to curl up with a book."

After reading and re-reading, it seems like they're saying it's a pub inspired bar, but not a pub.  They're from Britain, so this is similar to what they're used to, but there will be no fish n chips or bangers and mash.  It's their business, so they can do with it what they want. 

I get what Kiva is saying.  Nobody would deny that Obro's & Culhane's were/are pubs, but they also had to cater to their environment and the tastes of their consumers. O'Brothers had burgers, chicken sandwiches, chicken wings, salads and more. Culhanes has Shrimp 'n Grits, coleslaw, mac 'n cheese, avocado cobb salad and a number of other questionably british dishes. PH is burning through kegs faster than SMM and a blueberry cake donut, but I think they are trying to keep a balance between british and local favorites.

That said, The Daily Record has called it a pub (even renaming it the Posting House Pub) many times already and I'm sure they will many times in the future.  I guess this is kind of like how the JDR insists on always including a business' slogan in their articles, i.e. "The District, Life Well Lived", "Ida Claire, South of Ordinary", "Mayor Curry, dissenters must be silenced"...etc.  I'm surprised they don't call it "The Posting House Pub, Post Up Journey On".

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« Reply #85 on: June 11, 2019, 10:03:16 AM »
I also don’t fully grasp the “British” part of this pub, the beer they do have is better than most of the British beer you can get in the US.

Also, you may not be seeing Newcastle in British pubs because you’re not happening to go to pubs affiliated with Heineken NV. In Britain, there’s a terrible system where many if not most pubs are affiliated with the mega brewers and only carry their beer.

You're talking about a 'tied' pub (not sure if Heineken owns any pubs in the UK, tbh). But you still don't find Newcastle in free houses, either. The issue is that is is basically only available in a bottle in the UK.

Edit: a quick Google search has taught me that Heineken owns the "Star Pubs and Bars" group in the UK. Not sure how many of these there are.

Their YouTube says they own 2,900 pubs in the UK. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCYojSqz_xDoVVllJ-FzAf0g/about

I don't know if they have Newcastle on draft (or draught) or not, but they'd be the ones to have it if anyone did.
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« Reply #86 on: June 11, 2019, 10:05:20 AM »
The owner's description of PH from her blog, this was created months before the place opened.

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"You've probably heard the news already...we're opening a bar!"......"we wanted to bring a modern flavor of Great Britain to our little corner of Jacksonville, FL, and we want it to be a space for our local community to gather and rest—just like traditional posting houses did in the old days for travelers (and their horses!)"......."The design is a modern take on a cozy, English pub, with a moody color palette and rich, layered textures. Along with the main bar area, we will have a semi-private room which we are naming "the snug." It will be cozy, comfortable and the perfect place to curl up with a book."

After reading and re-reading, it seems like they're saying it's a pub inspired bar, but not a pub.  They're from Britain, so this is similar to what they're used to, but there will be no fish n chips or bangers and mash.  It's their business, so they can do with it what they want. 

I get what Kiva is saying.  Nobody would deny that Obro's & Culhane's were/are pubs, but they also had to cater to their environment and the tastes of their consumers. O'Brothers had burgers, chicken sandwiches, chicken wings, salads and more. Culhanes has Shrimp 'n Grits, coleslaw, mac 'n cheese, avocado cobb salad and a number of other questionably british dishes. PH is burning through kegs faster than SMM and a blueberry cake donut, but I think they are trying to keep a balance between british and local favorites.

That said, The Daily Record has called it a pub (even renaming it the Posting House Pub) many times already and I'm sure they will many times in the future.  I guess this is kind of like how the JDR insists on always including a business' slogan in their articles, i.e. "The District, Life Well Lived", "Ida Claire, South of Ordinary", "Mayor Curry, dissenters must be silenced"...etc.  I'm surprised they don't call it "The Posting House Pub, Post Up Journey On".

I just didn't know what was "English-inspired" about it. The decor seems nice and neutral, if a bit identikit and uninspired (seriously looks a lot like my former local Starbucks). At the time I posted that, though, I didn't realise the owners were English. As they are - and as the bar was their idea - it is clearly "English inspired" by default.
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« Reply #87 on: June 11, 2019, 10:06:51 AM »
The owner's description of PH from her blog, this was created months before the place opened.

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"You've probably heard the news already...we're opening a bar!"......"we wanted to bring a modern flavor of Great Britain to our little corner of Jacksonville, FL, and we want it to be a space for our local community to gather and rest—just like traditional posting houses did in the old days for travelers (and their horses!)"......."The design is a modern take on a cozy, English pub, with a moody color palette and rich, layered textures. Along with the main bar area, we will have a semi-private room which we are naming "the snug." It will be cozy, comfortable and the perfect place to curl up with a book."

After reading and re-reading, it seems like they're saying it's a pub inspired bar, but not a pub.  They're from Britain, so this is similar to what they're used to, but there will be no fish n chips or bangers and mash.  It's their business, so they can do with it what they want. 

I get what Kiva is saying.  Nobody would deny that Obro's & Culhane's were/are pubs, but they also had to cater to their environment and the tastes of their consumers. O'Brothers had burgers, chicken sandwiches, chicken wings, salads and more. Culhanes has Shrimp 'n Grits, coleslaw, mac 'n cheese, avocado cobb salad and a number of other questionably british dishes. PH is burning through kegs faster than SMM and a blueberry cake donut, but I think they are trying to keep a balance between british and local favorites.

That said, The Daily Record has called it a pub (even renaming it the Posting House Pub) many times already and I'm sure they will many times in the future.  I guess this is kind of like how the JDR insists on always including a business' slogan in their articles, i.e. "The District, Life Well Lived", "Ida Claire, South of Ordinary", "Mayor Curry, dissenters must be silenced"...etc.  I'm surprised they don't call it "The Posting House Pub, Post Up Journey On".

Makes sense. Whatever it is, it's a nice place to grab a good beer in the Square.
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« Reply #88 on: June 11, 2019, 10:08:31 AM »
I also don’t fully grasp the “British” part of this pub, the beer they do have is better than most of the British beer you can get in the US.

Also, you may not be seeing Newcastle in British pubs because you’re not happening to go to pubs affiliated with Heineken NV. In Britain, there’s a terrible system where many if not most pubs are affiliated with the mega brewers and only carry their beer.

You're talking about a 'tied' pub (not sure if Heineken owns any pubs in the UK, tbh). But you still don't find Newcastle in free houses, either. The issue is that is is basically only available in a bottle in the UK.

Edit: a quick Google search has taught me that Heineken owns the "Star Pubs and Bars" group in the UK. Not sure how many of these there are.

Their YouTube says they own 2,900 pubs in the UK. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCYojSqz_xDoVVllJ-FzAf0g/about

I don't know if they have Newcastle on draft (or draught) or not, but they'd be the ones to have it if anyone did.

I think - based on my recent search - that it was or is only available at one pub in Tyneside. It's a bottled drink in the UK. I searched for pubs in my area on the Star Pubs and Bars website and all the ones that I found are apparently looking for owners! Not a great sign (though apparently it's a tough business and pubs have a high failure rate).
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« Reply #89 on: June 11, 2019, 10:13:07 AM »
They're closed Mondays and yesterday when I drove past there were guys up on ladders doing work inside.  Maybe they will be adding some British flair in the coming weeks.  The owner references some lights in her blog post that have not yet been installed, so I'm sure there's still some work to be done.  Musicman will appreciate their willingness to get the doors open as early as possible.  I hope those pesky Regency boys across the street are taking notes!!!!