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Southside Construction Update - Spring 2018
« on: May 27, 2018, 09:50:02 AM »
Southside Construction Update - Spring 2018



A brief look at the status of various projects under construction in and around Jacksonville's Edge City, the Southside, during spring 2018.

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Re: Southside Construction Update - Spring 2018
« Reply #1 on: May 27, 2018, 04:45:28 PM »
What is Glenn's take on these changes?

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« Reply #2 on: May 27, 2018, 04:55:06 PM »
It is astonishing the number of high-quality (luxury-style) apartment units have been/continue to be added to the Southside.  I'm wondering how they are going to make it at their "projected" rents.  We've already seen several complexes that we looked at just last year coming down significantly from their starting prices and now, they are adding at least 5 complexes with probably 1500 new units within a mile of each other (Steel Creek, JTB, Jaxson, SUR, and Ravella).  Add this to 900 or so in the Kernan/Beach and Kernan/Atlantic area in the past two years, it might be reaching a saturation point sooner rather than later.

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Re: Southside Construction Update - Spring 2018
« Reply #3 on: May 27, 2018, 05:34:10 PM »
Didn’t the census stuff say that 11,000 new residents moved to Jax between 2016 and 2017? So would that be 1 new apartment around town center for every 5 new residents?

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Re: Southside Construction Update - Spring 2018
« Reply #4 on: May 27, 2018, 06:43:32 PM »
Didn’t the census stuff say that 11,000 new residents moved to Jax between 2016 and 2017? So would that be 1 new apartment around town center for every 5 new residents?

If Jax were only the two or three square miles that we are talking about here and if all of those 11,000 people who moved here were renters, that might be not such a big deal.  Neither of those is the case.  There are hundreds and hundreds of new apartments opening/have opened all over, including 220 Riverside, RiverHouse, Harbortown, The Hawthorne,  etc.  This is just in the SJTC area.  It should be good for us, as we are renters and probably will continue to be!   :)

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Re: Southside Construction Update - Spring 2018
« Reply #5 on: May 27, 2018, 07:16:18 PM »
Didn’t the census stuff say that 11,000 new residents moved to Jax between 2016 and 2017? So would that be 1 new apartment around town center for every 5 new residents?

If Jax were only the two or three square miles that we are talking about here and if all of those 11,000 people who moved here were renters, that might be not such a big deal.  Neither of those is the case.  There are hundreds and hundreds of new apartments opening/have opened all over, including 220 Riverside, RiverHouse, Harbortown, The Hawthorne,  etc.  This is just in the SJTC area.  It should be good for us, as we are renters and probably will continue to be!   :)

Are there any initiatives under way in Jax concerning form-based code?  Is it even in the city's awareness?  Are these developments near town center in some way incorporating this sort of land use regulation?

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Re: Southside Construction Update - Spring 2018
« Reply #6 on: May 27, 2018, 07:25:40 PM »
Didn’t the census stuff say that 11,000 new residents moved to Jax between 2016 and 2017? So would that be 1 new apartment around town center for every 5 new residents?

If Jax were only the two or three square miles that we are talking about here and if all of those 11,000 people who moved here were renters, that might be not such a big deal.  Neither of those is the case.  There are hundreds and hundreds of new apartments opening/have opened all over, including 220 Riverside, RiverHouse, Harbortown, The Hawthorne,  etc.  This is just in the SJTC area.  It should be good for us, as we are renters and probably will continue to be!   :)

Are there any initiatives under way in Jax concerning form-based code?  Is it even in the city's awareness?  Are these developments near town center in some way incorporating this sort of land use regulation?

Not my area of expertise, so I have zero idea.  However, I am keenly aware of the style of development that you prefer and Southside Quarter looks like a pretty cool development with mixed housing (single family detached, condos, and SUR apartments), restaurants, shops, businesses, etc.  Should provide good walkability, at least according to the plans we've seen.  We like what we have seen so far; we just have to decide if it's worth the money when they finally come out with their prices. 

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Re: Southside Construction Update - Spring 2018
« Reply #7 on: May 28, 2018, 09:38:32 AM »
Didn’t the census stuff say that 11,000 new residents moved to Jax between 2016 and 2017? So would that be 1 new apartment around town center for every 5 new residents?

If Jax were only the two or three square miles that we are talking about here and if all of those 11,000 people who moved here were renters, that might be not such a big deal.  Neither of those is the case.  There are hundreds and hundreds of new apartments opening/have opened all over, including 220 Riverside, RiverHouse, Harbortown, The Hawthorne,  etc.  This is just in the SJTC area.  It should be good for us, as we are renters and probably will continue to be!   :)

Are there any initiatives under way in Jax concerning form-based code?  Is it even in the city's awareness?  Are these developments near town center in some way incorporating this sort of land use regulation?

There's no real initiative that I'm aware of. There are examples of some of the developers going the extra step with their projects like Hines is with Southside Quarter. However, they are few and far in between and typically disconnected from other developments to create any meaningful hub of pedestrian scaled synergy and activity. Unfortunately, we make it easier and less expensive to design around the automobile and the private sector isn't in the business of designing your city for you.
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