Author Topic: Jaguars State of the Franchise 2018  (Read 49911 times)

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Re: Jaguars State of the Franchise 2018
« Reply #450 on: July 14, 2019, 12:16:08 PM »
So guess who would be most negatively affected by this new Live! venue with the agency's promotional power of having other Live! venues across the country? Why its none other that Downtown's own Florida Theater; also taking away business when they have concerts from the other bars and restaurants around it.

With the big dent this project is anticipated to have on Downtown's retail, nightlife, hotel, office, residential, and now entertainment viability this administration must believe one of the 3 C's in good urban planning is not complimentary uses but clusterfucking.

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Re: Jaguars State of the Franchise 2018
« Reply #451 on: July 14, 2019, 12:58:20 PM »
^You're overthinking the concert aspect of these Cordish Live! venues. The artists and speakers booked by the Florida Theater are in a different class than the c-level artists who put on free concerts at these Cordish venues. Lots of one hit wonders and relatively unknown country acts, from what I gather.

I also can't imagine what's proposed having too much of an effect on the existing landscape. Feels like - barring an existing downtown tenant moving to the sports complex - the business should be largely net new for downtown(ish).

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« Reply #452 on: July 15, 2019, 09:51:04 AM »
Not sure if it has been mentioned yet, but Kansas City Live got tons of great press during the World Cup.  Every US game would cut to the venue to see the reactions from the crowd there on big plays.  Granted, this should have been the Landing, but this will be a great place to watch away games and should get similar tv representation if we can fill it up.

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« Reply #453 on: July 15, 2019, 01:05:28 PM »
Not sure if it has been mentioned yet, but Kansas City Live got tons of great press during the World Cup.  Every US game would cut to the venue to see the reactions from the crowd there on big plays.  Granted, this should have been the Landing, but this will be a great place to watch away games and should get similar tv representation if we can fill it up.

We would just need to bid for the 2030 Women's World Cup and get FOX aboard.

https://fox4kc.com/2019/07/07/thousands-gather-at-power-light-to-watch-us-womens-team-win-fourth-world-cup-title/
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Re: Jaguars State of the Franchise 2018
« Reply #454 on: July 15, 2019, 01:10:44 PM »
Not sure if it has been mentioned yet, but Kansas City Live got tons of great press during the World Cup.  Every US game would cut to the venue to see the reactions from the crowd there on big plays.  Granted, this should have been the Landing, but this will be a great place to watch away games and should get similar tv representation if we can fill it up.

We would just need to bid for the 2030 Women's World Cup and get FOX aboard.

https://fox4kc.com/2019/07/07/thousands-gather-at-power-light-to-watch-us-womens-team-win-fourth-world-cup-title/

The Women’s World Cub wasn’t in Kansas City.

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Re: Jaguars State of the Franchise 2018
« Reply #455 on: July 15, 2019, 03:05:06 PM »
Not sure if it has been mentioned yet, but Kansas City Live got tons of great press during the World Cup.  Every US game would cut to the venue to see the reactions from the crowd there on big plays.  Granted, this should have been the Landing, but this will be a great place to watch away games and should get similar tv representation if we can fill it up.

We would just need to bid for the 2030 Women's World Cup and get FOX aboard.

https://fox4kc.com/2019/07/07/thousands-gather-at-power-light-to-watch-us-womens-team-win-fourth-world-cup-title/

The Women’s World Cub wasn’t in Kansas City.

Kansas City is the US bid from the 2026 World Cup.  That is why they were featured by FOX.
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« Reply #456 on: July 15, 2019, 04:14:53 PM »
The entire north american continent is the bid for 2026.  Pretty sure they were showing them because 10,000 people assembled to cheer on our women.

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« Reply #457 on: July 15, 2019, 04:46:42 PM »
The entire north american continent is the bid for 2026.  Pretty sure they were showing them because 10,000 people assembled to cheer on our women.

Correct. There will be about 12 cities selected. I think the split is 2 Canada, 2 Mexico, and 8 US. Jacksonville did bid but was eliminated in the round prior to now.

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« Reply #458 on: July 15, 2019, 06:16:09 PM »
The entire north american continent is the bid for 2026.  Pretty sure they were showing them because 10,000 people assembled to cheer on our women.

https://kc2026.com/

https://fox4kc.com/2019/07/07/thousands-gather-at-power-light-to-watch-us-womens-team-win-fourth-world-cup-title/

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It was a great look for KC and the bid for the World Cup to come to the city. The FOX broadcast showed scenes from the Power and Light District multiple times. They need 10,000 signatures to help the bid and they added a lot Sunday.

"FOX wants to show American passion for the World Cup so they show Kansas City, David Ficklin said, executive director of the KC 2026 World Cup. "And look at the ratings, we are one of the top 2-3 markets for viewing the World Cup every single match. So this is a really compelling statement that we're able to make to FIFA."

It was estimated around 10,000 people were at the Power and Light District, including restaurants, bars and the KC Live area.
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Re: Jaguars State of the Franchise 2018
« Reply #459 on: July 31, 2019, 02:54:11 PM »
Deal reached between the mayor's office and Iguana.

DIA and City Council next in line.

$450 million development, sounds like the office component might be fluid.

https://www.jaxdailyrecord.com/article/city-jaguars-owner-reach-incentives-deal-on-dollar450-million-lot-j-development

New (but largely unchanged) render here:
https://bobcat.grahamdigital.com/da1701057d783c24a0edf3171bed6223df7d1b0b/fit-760x428-000.jpg

Interesting that, in Curry's video announcement, he mentioned integrated and surface parking, but not a garage specifically.

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Re: Jaguars State of the Franchise 2018
« Reply #460 on: July 31, 2019, 03:12:40 PM »
Let's fully embrace our development strategy at opposite ends of our downtown business core!

I propose the Dumbbell Entertainment Artificial Development Zone, or DEADzone for short!

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« Reply #461 on: July 31, 2019, 03:18:15 PM »
What exactly is costing $450 million?

The new JEA headquarters is $75 million
Vista Brooklyn is $52 million
The Hyatt Place downtown is $23 million

Assuming something similar is built there is still $300,000,000 on the table.  I can't imagine a parking garage and LIVE arena are going to cost $300 million.  Depending on the public incentives we could just eliminate the middle man (Khan), build this ourselves, and keep 100% of the profit.

Also, I don't think they know what "mixed use" means.
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Re: Jaguars State of the Franchise 2018
« Reply #462 on: July 31, 2019, 03:21:43 PM »
What exactly is costing $450 million?

The new JEA headquarters is $75 million
Vista Brooklyn is $52 million
The Hyatt Place downtown is $23 million

Assuming something similar is built there is still $300,000,000 on the table.  I can't imagine a parking garage and LIVE arena are going to cost $300 million.  Depending on the public incentives we could just eliminate the middle man (Khan), build this ourselves, and keep 100% of the profit.

Also, I don't think they know what "mixed use" means.

TL;DR: Let the Fleecing of the Taxpayers begin.
And so it goes

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Re: Jaguars State of the Franchise 2018
« Reply #463 on: July 31, 2019, 03:32:33 PM »
Deal reached between the mayor's office and Iguana.

DIA and City Council next in line.

$450 million development, sounds like the office component might be fluid.

https://www.jaxdailyrecord.com/article/city-jaguars-owner-reach-incentives-deal-on-dollar450-million-lot-j-development

New (but largely unchanged) render here:
https://bobcat.grahamdigital.com/da1701057d783c24a0edf3171bed6223df7d1b0b/fit-760x428-000.jpg

Interesting that, in Curry's video announcement, he mentioned integrated and surface parking, but not a garage specifically.

What’s the bill?

(I realize that hasn’t been announced but that’s all I care about with this one.

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Re: Jaguars State of the Franchise 2018
« Reply #464 on: July 31, 2019, 03:34:30 PM »
What exactly is costing $450 million?

The new JEA headquarters is $75 million
Vista Brooklyn is $52 million
The Hyatt Place downtown is $23 million

Assuming something similar is built there is still $300,000,000 on the table.   I can't imagine a parking garage and LIVE arena are going to cost $300 million.  Depending on the public incentives we could just eliminate the middle man (Khan), build this ourselves, and keep 100% of the profit.

Also, I don't think they know what "mixed use" means.

The new Curry-Mousa Charter School, on the site of the former Landing, with athletic fields on the former Court House / City Hall site. Rumor has it the design closely follows a building in Agra, India.