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« Reply #210 on: May 02, 2018, 10:49:56 AM »
^Great pics!

Thanks for sharing!

We've talked a lot about whether the market is there for new office space downtown.

Here's a look at where things currently stand:

https://www.bizjournals.com/jacksonville/news/2018/05/02/q1-office-reports-kbj-moves-into-bank-of-america.html

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« Reply #211 on: May 02, 2018, 11:48:21 AM »
I can't believe some local bar owner hasn't taken the letters to have a massive illuminated sign that reads: Beer.

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« Reply #212 on: May 17, 2018, 10:26:38 AM »
Per the JBJ:

1) The Jags plan to present a final development plan for Lot J by the end of the year.
2) Parking isn't a top priority for the Jags with Lot J. From the sounds of it, the parking garage might come later. They'd rather focus on a dense, walkable, pedestrian-friendly development than accommodate parking and vehicular traffic.
3) The city will soon begin adding in clean fill over the contaminated areas of Lot J
4) Unlike the Shipyards, the Jags are committed to coming up with the best design for the property and then addressing the contamination, rather than working around the existing contamination as they design

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« Reply #213 on: June 08, 2018, 09:18:54 PM »
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Mark Lamping says he hopes a deal on team’s huge sports-complex development can go before City Council this year.

Jacksonville Jaguars President Mark Lamping said he hopes an economic development deal can go before City Council by the end of the year so work can start on a “new neighborhood” of apartments, offices, hotels, entertainment venues and convention space in the sports complex area of downtown.

“I’m really confident we’re going to get to a very good place that not only puts the project at a reasonable risk-reward for us, but will make a lot of sense to the city as well as the taxpayers,” Lamping said in a meeting with the Times-Union editorial board...

Lamping said the goal is to have as much of the construction under way simultaneously as possible, adding “if we can in essence bring a neighborhood up at the same time, it has a much better chance of being successful.”

“What we don’t want to see happen is one project is done one year followed by a second one a year later and third one two or three years after that,” he said. “We want to get as much going as we can at the same time.”...

Khan is teaming up with the Cordish Companies for Lot J, which would have an entertainment venue with restaurants and gathering areas similar to what Cordish has built near sports venues in other cities. Lamping said it is a 50-50 partnership.

He said it will require support as well from the city, which will be part of the negotiations.

“There’s a reason there aren’t a lot of [construction] cranes in downtown Jacksonville,” he said. “It’s not as if there’s an unlimited number of developers out there ready to write huge checks, because there still is some risk involved.

Lamping also mentioned that the Jags are putting up some pretty insane numbers. 90% renewal rate for existing season ticket holders, plus over 10,000 new season tickets sold in the offseason. Best in the league.

Full story:
http://www.jacksonville.com/news/20180608/jags-president-talks-downtown-ticket-prices-and-more-games-in-london

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« Reply #214 on: June 10, 2018, 10:54:49 AM »
It is interesting that VyStar looking into move by the stadium with Kahn’s plan. I understand that the project is probably a long way off but the prospect of business moving to that area doesn’t seem so far fetched.

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« Reply #215 on: June 10, 2018, 01:59:50 PM »
Wonder why they rejected the Khan plan.
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« Reply #216 on: June 10, 2018, 02:17:31 PM »
Probably timeline but I'm glad they did. DT needs as much infill and density in its heart as possible.
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« Reply #217 on: June 10, 2018, 02:27:11 PM »
^Agreed.

It was also very important to Vystar to select a location that would have the most immediate impact on downtown revitalization efforts. And they wanted to do it with no public incentives, as they felt it wouldn't be right to try to fund their move using the tax dollars of their customers.

All around good-guy move by Vystar, that not only puts 600 new workers downtown, but also eliminates a lot of the city's lease liability to Southeast for the new Trio garage.

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« Reply #218 on: June 10, 2018, 02:38:34 PM »
Too long at Lot J and wanted to make an impact downtown...yet didn't build a suburban campus because of price.
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« Reply #219 on: June 10, 2018, 02:48:25 PM »
^Agreed.

It was also very important to Vystar to select a location that would have the most immediate impact on downtown revitalization efforts. And they wanted to do it with no public incentives, as they felt it wouldn't be right to try to fund their move using the tax dollars of their customers.

All around good-guy move by Vystar, that not only puts 600 new workers downtown, but also eliminates a lot of the city's lease liability to Southeast for the new Trio garage.

Agreed! No incentives from the city was a big time move by VyStar. I hope they can influence others to do the same.

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« Reply #220 on: June 11, 2018, 12:50:22 PM »
How many NFL teams would be willing to play one of their "home" games in Khan's stadium? Financially it could make sense, but if the Jags develop a real crowd advantage, then I don't see other owners agreeing to that.

Wembley could be a good thing for Jax and the Jags. However, if the team does not meet financial goals locally, I could see this creeping toward more than one home game in London.

The Jaguars would have a very difficult time selling additional home games in London to the fans in Jacksonville. If fans begin to see this venture as a gradual creep across the Atlantic, they'll stop supporting the team altogether. If that happens, so much for increasing local revenue.

But if Khan owns Wembley, he might have the leverage to lure other NFL teams to give up home games to play the Jaguars in London. From a competitive standpoint, home-field advantage matters a lot less in the NFL than it does in college, particularly during the regular season. A Jaguar-heavy crowd would not be as much of an issue with getting another team to come play in London.

In college football, we've had a huge increase in these "neutral site" games early in the year. They're so lucrative that Florida and Michigan get more money by splitting the revenue from a game in Dallas than they do by keeping all of the money from a game in Gainesville/Ann Arbor. Since Khan doesn't have to rent the facility, the financials of a "neutral site" game between the Chargers and Jaguars might begin to look more attractive for both teams than a game in LA, where they can't even fill an MLS stadium. The Chargers, or many other small-market teams, could do better with half the money from a London game than all of the money from a home game. And obviously the Jags would be happy to take half the money from a London game than none of the money from a traditional road game.

And the fans in Jacksonville don't care a lick how many road games the Jaguars play in London.

Hmmmm....

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He said the team’s annual home game in London remains crucial for the franchise, and Jaguars owner Shad Khan would like to play a second game in London in a future season if it could be done through back-to-back games. Lamping emphasized that if the Jaguars played a second London game, it would be for one of the team’s road games so it wouldn’t take another home game from Jaguars fans.

“Shad would like to see that, I think, if it made sense for us,” he said.

Smart guy.

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« Reply #221 on: June 11, 2018, 01:48:21 PM »
Here is what we know:

Khan awarded Shipyards rights in 2015 - never built anything.

Khan awarded development rights again in April 2017 - year later and all we have is a new set of drawings.

One company we know of expressed interest in anchoring Khan development ultimately said No Thanks.
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« Reply #222 on: June 11, 2018, 02:36:25 PM »
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He said the team’s annual home game in London remains crucial for the franchise, and Jaguars owner Shad Khan would like to play a second game in London in a future season if it could be done through back-to-back games. Lamping emphasized that if the Jaguars played a second London game, it would be for one of the team’s road games so it wouldn’t take another home game from Jaguars fans.

“Shad would like to see that, I think, if it made sense for us,” he said.

Smart guy.

Nice sentiment from Lamping, but I don't buy it.

What NFL owner at all concerned with winning is going to agree to sacrifice one of their own home games in order to fly overseas and play a well-rested Jags team in London, in a stadium that has been their second home field since 2013?

Nobody is going to agree to this, it puts the Jags at too much of an advantage.

The only way a second London game possibly makes sense is as a home game.


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Re: Jaguars State of the Franchise 2018
« Reply #223 on: June 11, 2018, 02:52:13 PM »
Here is what we know:

Khan awarded Shipyards rights in 2015 - never built anything.

Khan awarded development rights again in April 2017 - year later and all we have is a new set of drawings.

One company we know of expressed interest in anchoring Khan development ultimately said No Thanks.

I think that's a slanted look at it. You then also have to consider

 - The Scoreboards and Pools
 - The Stadium Club Renovations
 - Daily's Place and the Flex Field

Those have all been completed.

Plus, is the fact that VyStar decided on the downtown core a knock on Khan?

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« Reply #224 on: June 11, 2018, 02:54:45 PM »
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He said the team’s annual home game in London remains crucial for the franchise, and Jaguars owner Shad Khan would like to play a second game in London in a future season if it could be done through back-to-back games. Lamping emphasized that if the Jaguars played a second London game, it would be for one of the team’s road games so it wouldn’t take another home game from Jaguars fans.

“Shad would like to see that, I think, if it made sense for us,” he said.

Smart guy.

Nice sentiment from Lamping, but I don't buy it.

What NFL owner at all concerned with winning is going to agree to sacrifice one of their own home games in order to fly overseas and play a well-rested Jags team in London, in a stadium that has been their second home field since 2013?

Nobody is going to agree to this, it puts the Jags at too much of an advantage.

The only way a second London game possibly makes sense is as a home game.



A team that wants to make much more from The Gate in Wembley (remember the home team gets the ticket sales and revenue as if it was in their main stadium). The Money Khan is getting doesn't come from that; Khan would get the money that the FA currently gets every time a home game is there, which is separate.

For about 1/3 of the teams in the NFL, they make considerably more in London than they do at their main stadium, regardless of who owns the stadium.