Jaguars State of the Franchise 2018

[vicupstate]

I also was at that show.  I enjoyed deep purple way more than I thought I would. 

You can hear concerts perfectly well in Lot J.  Its loud.  BUT, inside a modern well insulated building it shouldn't be too bad.  Inside a wood frame house, it would be terrible.

Most apartment complexes I see built these days are absolutely wood frame.

[Lostwave]

I also was at that show.  I enjoyed deep purple way more than I thought I would. 

You can hear concerts perfectly well in Lot J.  Its loud.  BUT, inside a modern well insulated building it shouldn't be too bad.  Inside a wood frame house, it would be terrible.

Most apartment complexes I see built these days are absolutely wood frame.

Right, but the lot J proposal is all highrise.  Def not going to be sticks.

[thelakelander]

Except those renderings are conceptual. Those highrises aren't real projects. Just drawings to impress people, that happen to change every year.

[Keith-N-Jax]

To impress people? I would think the renderings are just to give people an idea what the project would like like. It’s those with their personal agendas that try and change that!

[thelakelander]

The market determines what things will ultimately be. Slick renderings before digging into the details are great for gaining political and public support. However, they can lead to big disappointment when what's built does not compare to what is prematurely sold.

[marcuscnelson]

The market determines what things will ultimately be. Slick renderings before digging into the details are great for gaining political and public support. However, they can lead to big disappointment when what's built does not compare to what is prematurely sold.

cough coughDaily's Placecough cough

[thelakelander]

Although a difficult comparison since it includes no retail or residential space, Daily's Place also ended up looking completely different than the original renderings. It was certainly value engineered. If Lot J and the other stuff materialize, they will be as well. This no knock on Iguana, it's just the typical process.

[KenFSU]

The market determines what things will ultimately be. Slick renderings before digging into the details are great for gaining political and public support. However, they can lead to big disappointment when what's built does not compare to what is prematurely sold.

Here's what the City Council was shown when they approved $90 million for an amphitheater and practice facility.



Here's what they got:



If you want to know what a Lot J development would actually end up looking like, a good place to start would be looking at some of Cordish's other developments in places like Texas, St. Louis, Kansas City, etc. The newer Cordish developments in particular have a bit of a distinct look.

[thelakelander]

Not many Cordish developments look like the Shipyards renderings with towers all over the place. None that I can think of in a metro of Jax's size.

[marcuscnelson]

There's also the example of how the Jacksonville Regional Transportation Center went from this:



To this:



To this:

[MusicMan]

Should the Jags make a play for LeVeon Bell? Just as in his college career,  Fournette is always injured.

Bell on the other hand is reliable and undeniably the best RB in the NFL.

Just putting that out there. 

[remc86007]

Our backup RBs didn't suck today.

One of the most fun I've had at Jags game!

[MusicMan]

The O line is dramatically improved. There has never really been anything wrong with the back up RB's.  Our O line sucked up until last year.

Seriously, we whooped the Patriots with Fournette on the bench......

[KenFSU]

Not sure what the implications are, but apparently the city is rezoning the entire Shipyards/Met Park/Lot J area as "central business district."

[jaxnyc79]

Not sure what the implications are, but apparently the city is rezoning the entire Shipyards/Met Park/Lot J area as "central business district."

Can we now boast the largest central business district in Florida (in land area)?