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Re: Brightline Train Deaths
« Reply #15 on: February 26, 2018, 12:54:41 PM »
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Tri-Rail and Amtrak also travel up to 79 mph in South Florida and have been doing so for decades.

Amtrak isn't a poster boy for safety.  There's been many fatalities and hundreds of injuries in the last few months involving their trains.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/recent-amtrak-derailments/story?id=51882064

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Re: Brightline Train Deaths
« Reply #16 on: February 26, 2018, 01:00:21 PM »
What do you believe the rail company should do to stop people from breaking the law?
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Re: Brightline Train Deaths
« Reply #17 on: February 26, 2018, 01:33:05 PM »
What do you believe the rail company should do to stop people from breaking the law?

We should either ban these assault trains or arm everyone with a train to level the playing field.

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Re: Brightline Train Deaths
« Reply #18 on: February 26, 2018, 01:35:28 PM »
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What do you believe the rail company should do to stop people from breaking the law?

By breaking the law are you referring to a conductor driving a train faster than the track speed limit into a corner, causing a derailment?  Or just plain negligence in driving a train into a dump truck without attempting to stop?

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"It was a very high-speed collision," U.S. Rep. Jeff Denham, R-Calif., who was on board, told Fox News. "There was no braking that was felt. We hit an immediate impact and went from 70 to zero very quickly." 

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/01/31/train-carrying-lawmakers-to-gop-retreat-involved-in-accident.html

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Re: Brightline Train Deaths
« Reply #19 on: February 26, 2018, 01:48:20 PM »
You do know that trains don't immediately stop when they brake. In the Amtrak accident, the engineer hit the breaks and ran into the engine compartment to protect himself knowing it would still hit the gasoline tanker sitting on the tracks. That train was running at 35mph.
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Re: Brightline Train Deaths
« Reply #20 on: February 26, 2018, 01:49:12 PM »
I'm not sure what you want Brightline and FEC to do. You squeeze between the gates to get around a train and get hit, you're likely to die regardless of it traveling at 60 or 79 miles per hour. At some point, personal responsibility needs to play a role.


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Re: Brightline Train Deaths
« Reply #21 on: February 26, 2018, 01:54:29 PM »
Trolling, Trolling, Trolling, keep them doggies Trolling!!! AldermanparkLover is that you?

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Re: Brightline Train Deaths
« Reply #22 on: February 26, 2018, 02:00:08 PM »
You do know that trains don't immediately stop when they brake. In the Amtrak accident, the engineer hit the breaks and ran into the engine compartment to protect himself knowing it would still hit the gasoline tanker sitting on the tracks. That train was running at 35mph.

That gasoline tanker incident was a different train wreck.  I was referring to the dump truck train wreck two months ago in Virginia involving members of congress.  The conductor made no attempt to stop, 1 person died and a bunch of folks were banged up.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/01/31/train-carrying-lawmakers-to-gop-retreat-involved-in-accident.html

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Re: Brightline Train Deaths
« Reply #23 on: February 26, 2018, 02:06:11 PM »
Could have hit the breaks and they still would have been hit if they were on the tracks. The safest solution is to stay off the tracks. What else do you believe should be done to enhance safety?
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Re: Brightline Train Deaths
« Reply #24 on: February 26, 2018, 02:30:18 PM »
Hey, while your at this nonsense, why don't you ask what P&G is going to do about their unsafe Tide Pods?  I mean, seriously.  You obviously have nothing better to do today, so let's add to the discussion.

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Re: Brightline Train Deaths
« Reply #25 on: February 26, 2018, 02:38:09 PM »
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Could have hit the breaks and they still would have been hit if they were on the tracks. The safest solution is to stay off the tracks. What else do you believe should be done to enhance safety?

Obviously, staying off the tracks, as a passenger, conductor, or a pedestrian walking through their neighborhood, is the best way to avoid a train wreck.  As a matter of public safety no concern is given to the communities that have these high speed trains going through them.  The existing tracks are a legacy of an earlier era before airplanes and highways.  These tracks go through heavily populated areas with much pedestrian foot traffic.  It's disingenuous to just say, "stay off the tracks", when these rail lines go through heavily trafficked areas and the current safety record of trains is dubious.

Scene from Delray Beach where the Brightline goes through:


Looks like a nice scene to me...

How will 32 trains (freight and high speed passenger) a day in this situation not be a disaster waiting to happen?

 

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Re: Brightline Train Deaths
« Reply #26 on: February 26, 2018, 02:49:09 PM »
I mean this in the nicest way possible, but it's almost like you don't understand how railroad crossings work.

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Re: Brightline Train Deaths
« Reply #27 on: February 26, 2018, 02:50:58 PM »
A smart person would not ignore those lights, bells, and physical obstructions in that picture all warning you to stay off the tracks....
How much safer are automobiles? Yeah...guess we should just ban those too...  ::)

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Re: Brightline Train Deaths
« Reply #28 on: February 26, 2018, 04:23:16 PM »
Excellent picture of Atlantic Avenue in Delray. It shows crossing gates, cantilever signals and signage warning drivers not to stop on the tracks.
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Re: Brightline Train Deaths
« Reply #29 on: February 26, 2018, 04:32:00 PM »
So you’re saying because of the big bad social-engineering communists of the Florida legislature using their unconstitutional wielding of power  to finance and order railroads to start shipping people that the state’s rails are now these constant deathtraps? That if only Brightline were scrapped there wouldn’t be the needless deaths of dozens?

As you, say if there should be more “outrage” over theses high-speed death trains, what’s your damn solution? Specifically what are we to do with the over 100 million tons of cargo currentlyshipped through Florida train lines? Start shipping over half of it through tractor trailers clogging up the roads fucking up the highways going through residential neighborhoods potentially carrying hazardous materials? I guess we shouldn’t sweat that since by your logic taking all that shit off our rails and into trucks running alongside mixed traffic would only amount to 16 accidents a year.

If you keep this kind of angry illogical solution-less rambling up FloridaBoy, then very soon you shall be a FloridaMan!