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Re: Mooneyhan Video Presentation on 4 development projects
« Reply #15 on: September 17, 2008, 07:50:09 AM »
I swear I'm not a pessimist but I 'm not sold on this company. Whether they're genuine big-dreamers who are lost in a fantasy or they are trying to con the city out of something somehow, I'm not sure. But I just don't trust 'em. I mean, could they not have gotten any better lighting for this huge presentation? Better quality for the brief, one-minute of actual video?

Something's just not right. I hope I'm wrong.

I wonder what happened to their plans in Nashville?  It looked like a go a while back.

Exactly... Seems they have tried to do variations of this project in a few other cities and it has never panned out. 
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Re: Mooneyhan Video Presentation on 4 development projects
« Reply #16 on: September 17, 2008, 09:07:45 AM »
I swear I'm not a pessimist but I 'm not sold on this company. Whether they're genuine big-dreamers who are lost in a fantasy or they are trying to con the city out of something somehow, I'm not sure. But I just don't trust 'em. I mean, could they not have gotten any better lighting for this huge presentation? Better quality for the brief, one-minute of actual video?

Something's just not right. I hope I'm wrong.

I am right there with you. I am taking it with a huge grain of salt.

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Re: Mooneyhan Video Presentation on 4 development projects
« Reply #17 on: September 17, 2008, 09:16:19 AM »
The studios and theme park idea would be huge. You guys that have complained about Jax's lack of tourism dollars would have nothing to worry about if that theme park idea became a reality. Jax's stance as a tourist destination would rise significantly.

However, like most of you, I'm going to wait and see what happens here. Mooneyhan movies aren't exactly blockbusters, and they would need those types of movies to fund these aggressive plans.

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« Reply #18 on: September 17, 2008, 12:00:56 PM »
Well I'll post again to all the non-believers out there.  As for the presentation please keep perspective, The plans that appear to be on or near the Skyway are "conceptual renderings".  This phase is considered to be the most fluid of all phases, hence no animation.  The importance of the renderings is not where the renderings appear to be placed downtown but that the idea itself is trying to land itself in downtown Jacksonville, there is space available in many places, but it is indisputable that no matter where it ends up it would be a good thing for the city. Moving on. As for the Theme Park it is a real and exciting idea and requires people to think on a bigger scale than they are used to in this city.  I understand the skepticism on the Theme Park, I mean its big and the questions floating around about "where would it be? ,its too big" there will be thousands of questions like that asked, but rest assured we would not put out an idea like that without having the plans, locations, and forward planning in place for such a project. The important thing here is the first phase.  Thats why its called a first phase, its the first step towards the rest of the project.  Thats what we want to do right now and we want everyone to get behind it.  We have been working at this for years now and know all about height limits, availability, who owns what, and the speed bumps we will encounter along the way.  As the owner stated this "is a result of a vision that started 15 years ago".  This just didn't happen overnight, it has taken us a while to get to where we are at, but ultimately everyone should know...again...thats its real and its big.  TTYL

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Re: Mooneyhan Video Presentation on 4 development projects
« Reply #19 on: September 17, 2008, 12:06:30 PM »
Well I'll post again to all the non-believers out there.  As for the presentation please keep perspective, The plans that appear to be on or near the Skyway are "conceptual renderings".  This phase is considered to be the most fluid of all phases, hence no animation.  The importance of the renderings is not where the renderings appear to be placed downtown but that the idea itself is trying to land itself in downtown Jacksonville, there is space available in many places, but it is indisputable that no matter where it ends up it would be a good thing for the city. Moving on. As for the Theme Park it is a real and exciting idea and requires people to think on a bigger scale than they are used to in this city.  I understand the skepticism on the Theme Park, I mean its big and the questions floating around about "where would it be? ,its too big" there will be thousands of questions like that asked, but rest assured we would not put out an idea like that without having the plans, locations, and forward planning in place for such a project. The important thing here is the first phase.  Thats why its called a first phase, its the first step towards the rest of the project.  Thats what we want to do right now and we want everyone to get behind it.  We have been working at this for years now and know all about height limits, availability, who owns what, and the speed bumps we will encounter along the way.  As the owner stated this "is a result of a vision that started 15 years ago".  This just didn't happen overnight, it has taken us a while to get to where we are at, but ultimately everyone should know...again...thats its real and its big.  TTYL

Can you tell us about the other Mooneyhan projects that seemed to have fizzled in other places?  Seems I read of an attempt to do something similar in Nashville...

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa5293/is_199811/ai_n24338984/pg_1

http://www.bastienarchitects.com/11-09-98_nashville.htm
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« Reply #20 on: September 17, 2008, 12:14:19 PM »
JohnnyNetBug, do you have any more "tidbits" or details that you'd be wiling to share?

I'm holding out judgement until something a little more concrete shows up, but the concepts and ideas sound absolutely amazing.

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« Reply #21 on: September 17, 2008, 12:46:21 PM »
I'm holding out judgement as well.  At this point, it seems more like a dream (although a good one), as opposed to something concrete.
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Re: Mooneyhan Video Presentation on 4 development projects
« Reply #22 on: September 17, 2008, 01:47:14 PM »
Johnny, please understand that most of us are being cautiously optimistic. If your company's development comes into fruition, it will truly be an amazing project that will change Jacksonville in a tremendously positive direction. I love the ideas and the ambition behind this project. But I, like many citizens, have had our hopes crushed from the failures of even smaller projects.

We definitely want these plans to succeed, if they're legit.

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Re: Mooneyhan Video Presentation on 4 development projects
« Reply #23 on: September 17, 2008, 02:03:50 PM »
Thanks CN... you convey my sentiments better than I do... :)
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Re: Mooneyhan Video Presentation on 4 development projects
« Reply #24 on: September 17, 2008, 02:45:00 PM »
Yup.

Thanks CN... you convey my sentiments better than I do... :)

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Re: Mooneyhan Video Presentation on 4 development projects
« Reply #25 on: September 18, 2008, 09:55:32 AM »
Thanks for the update JohnnyNetBug. Yes, everything depends on phase 1 obviously.

I definitely would be interested in getting on board helping to bring a major film studio to Jax Beach. (I have a tv/video background.) That would be...simply a terrific boon in a terrific location.

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« Reply #26 on: September 18, 2008, 09:33:48 PM »
Here's a few answers or "tidbits" for you.  Yes this project idea attempted to launch in Nashville in the 90's. It did fizzle out.  Here's what I can tell you.  The project launch was greeted with big headlines and cheers from the community and all was wonderful however the news came out before all was set in stone, that was the first mistake but not the cause of failure.  We have learned from this mistake and have limited our current projects exposure because of the lessons learned then. The cause of the failure at that time, in our opinion, was the deep rooted control of the well established music industry had in the area at the time.  Everyone knows the history of Nashville and Music, and to make a long story short when we attempted to bring a competing Industry to town with the plans that were at the scale of ours, it threatened that Industry enough for them to use their influence and social stature to wrap our project in more local and political red tape than could be fended off right from the beginning. It was over before it started.  We are starting again, this time being older and wiser. 

As for more info on what we are currently working towards, I'm afraid that we will say no more and give no further details than what is listed online.  However when we take our plans public we will more than likely be an open book.

As for the other posts, cautious optimism is good.  We like that.  For those holding off judgement before something concrete shows up, good, we like that too. You should hold off judgement, judge us after we pour the concrete.  We just want to give a few details and let people know were in town and that we have big plans.  We thought it would be a nice gesture to put some info out there so that Jacksonville knows the we feel that it is the right place and right time for this to happen here, and we feel that we will be meeting a demand for needed entertainment here and while were at it we'll help boost the economic status of this city.  We are not outsiders, we live here too and we want what everyone else wants, something to hang our hat on and someone place great to go out to on a Friday night. If you have any feedback on the site don't be afraid to send it along using the contact info on the site.  TTYL - JohnnyNetBug

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« Reply #27 on: September 18, 2008, 10:54:37 PM »
I appreciate your explanations, Johnny, and for reasons both selfish and not, I do wish your company complete success in its endeavors here.

I look forward to the big public unveiling of your plans. Do you have any expected time frame for this?

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« Reply #28 on: September 18, 2008, 11:38:24 PM »
For reasons selfish and not I wish you great success.
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« Reply #29 on: September 19, 2008, 08:47:45 AM »
Excellent explanation, Johnny. I also hope that you and your company achieve complete success with these plans. They are bold, imaginative, and exciting plans for the city of Jacksonville.