Author Topic: Lenny Curry wants state money to remove Hart Bridge ramps near Everbank Field  (Read 42995 times)

acme54321

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I am confused by the bike/ped overpass, since Adams and Monroe are parallel.

It's an excuse to kick the can down the road for removing those ramps.

Tacachale

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Any dedicated lanes for the Skyway or coordination with JTA on the design?

Do you believe that when the blue jay or another bird sings and the body is trembling, that is a signal that people are coming or something important is about to happen?

KenFSU

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There's almost no way they'd extend the skyway to the stadium unless they had a LOT of money to drop. That's a 1.6 mile extension.

Any chance that two of those lanes might end up dedicated Skyway, like we saw in JTA's presentation?


carpnter

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One thing to keep in mind, if the ramps get removed there will be no closing of Bay St./Gator Bowl Blvd on a weekday like they did yesterday to get ready for Rockville.  You cannot push all of that traffic over to Union St and not have traffic backups and pissed off commuters.   So if they are going to remove the ramps they had better plan on putting elevated crosswalks in so people can get downtown.

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I hope the city in the end elects to keep some amount of elevated freeways.  In fact, better connecting 115 with US 1 could help with traffic.  Already when there are events over there, traffic backs up along union and beaver coming from the west.  Ideally we could get more of those people onto the west side of downtown without them using downtown streets.  It's less efficient and leads to more localized congestion and localized pollutants.

KenFSU

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The feds turned down Curry's request for $25 million, leaving the project only halfway funded.

http://www.jacksonville.com/news/20180620/citys-bid-for-hart-bridge-demolition-money-falls-flat

Kerry

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Surely a $2.5 billion project won't be held up by $25 million.  To bad we can't use the bed tax. ;)
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Surely a $2.5 billion project won't be held up by $25 million.  To bad we can't use the bed tax. ;)
I'm sure if Lenny Curry could find a way to do that he would!

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Oh, wait. Lenny has magically found millions of city dollars lying around. How convenient! https://www.bizjournals.com/jacksonville/news/2018/06/20/mayor-hart-bridge-ramp-project-will-proceed.html

KenFSU

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^This is actually the $12.5 million already in the budget for the project, plus the state's $12.5 million match.

Sounds like Curry believes he can complete the demolition and reconfiguration in phases, rather than waiting on full funding to become available.

Credit where it's due here. Curry fought hard for those state dollars and made a fighting effort to get federal funding. If ramp removal opens up Met Park and the Shipyards for enhanced development, we'll ROI on the project.

Hopefully we see a PD&E advertised soon.

vicupstate

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According to Mtrain, since Trump was President/Despot, his BFF Scott was Governor, and 2nd BFF Curry was Mayor, getting the Federal money was a slam dunk.   
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According to Mtrain, since Trump was President/Despot, his BFF Scott was Governor, and 2nd BFF Curry was Mayor, getting the Federal money was a slam dunk.   

To me, it's always felt like a longshot. If you look at the intent of the Infrastructure for Rebuilding America program, and the projects that have been awarded grants, the program is intended to help improve, expand, or rebuild existing roadways, bridges, and transportation networks. Even with the slightly disingenuous name (Talleyrand Connector), it's clear that the Hart Bridge project is intended to make the Shipyards/Met Park more marketable, not improve our crumbling infrastructure.

Silver lining, if Trump launches an Infrastructure for Demolishing America program, I'm pretty sure we're a shoe-in.

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According to Mtrain, since Trump was President/Despot, his BFF Scott was Governor, and 2nd BFF Curry was Mayor, getting the Federal money was a slam dunk.

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According to Mtrain, since Trump was President/Despot, his BFF Scott was Governor, and 2nd BFF Curry was Mayor, getting the Federal money was a slam dunk.

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Ah. That does sound right.
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It was laughable from the beginning that the City made the freight enhancement argument so they could apply for the one Federal program - the better bet is submit under the BUILD (formerly TIGER) program.