Author Topic: Lenny Curry wants state money to remove Hart Bridge ramps near Everbank Field  (Read 40537 times)



Tacachale

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Get in line, says the FDOT:

http://www.bizjournals.com/jacksonville/news/2016/12/09/fdot-said-it-will-work-with-planning-organization.html

aka: Nothing will get done.

aka Development want ≠ safety need.

aka FDOT will continue to prioritize more expensive and unnecessary projects over downtown.
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It's not FDOT's responsibility to magically come up with  $50 million to move a structurally sound highway for local development desires. That's not the way funding works, so no surprise or disappointment here. All this means is that there is a process to follow if you expect them to fund it.
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FDOT will likely not be driving the train on this. The Legislature and the Trump Administration will likely have them singing a different tune soon.

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Lol, if you think FDOT is going to pay for it within a year, you better believe they'll be in the front of the train.
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The (Florida) Legislature is supposed to be working on the funding, and our delagation is behind it. But they are almost all newbies and won't be in any leadership positions. The main issue will be identifying the money; the next issue will be FDOT actually getting on the ball with it if the money is found. And no, the President of the United States isn't going to weigh in on a state issue affecting one bridge in one city.
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If an Infrastructure bill gets passed, which is a very big IF, that would at least provide a pot of money to do this project. more likely,  it would allow a higher priority project to get funded and thereby be removed as an competitor for funding.  If the engineering work is already done, that would increasing the chances of something happening sooner rather than later.  Regardless, until Curry or someone has some big chips to play, I wouldn't expect this to move forward  in the next year or two.
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Another option is for Jacksonville to take control of its own destiny and toss in some local money upfront to get it done faster. After all, I'd assume, for this to really become a gateway, it's got to be more than just tearing the bridge down. Bay could use some enhancement itself, if converted into a street level boulevard.

Say goodbye to elevated stretch of Bonaventure Expressway
http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-news/say-goodbye-to-elevated-stretch-of-bonaventure-expressway





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^^ A boulevard similar to that would be a fantastic gateway to downtown!

Tacachale

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Yeah, for sure.
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When Riverside was done through Brooklyn, it should have been closer to this. Remember everyone in DOT and city was calling it the gateway to DT.

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The article I. T-U this morning provided more info. I believe only 9 mil is for taking it down. Rest is for enhancement of Bay St and building new ramp to Hart and new ramp to the portion that would be left and adding pedestrian and bike lanes, etc to the remaining portion not to be taken down.

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And no, the President of the United States isn't going to weigh in on a state issue affecting one bridge in one city.
We'll see about that, Taca. The Trump Administration is not limited to him making pronouncements from on high. Ever heard of the USDOT? Or the Federal Highway Administration?

Hmmmmm . . . The FHWA’s role in the Federal-aid Highway Program is to oversee federal funds used for constructing and maintaining the National Highway System (primarily Interstate Highways, U.S. Routes and most State Routes).

And what's this: The Isaiah David Hart Bridge is a truss bridge that spans the St. Johns River in Jacksonville, Florida. It carries U.S. Route 1 Alternate (US 1 Alt.) and State Road 228 (SR 228).

So, we shall see Taca. I suspect there are a bunch of people in FDOT and USDOT who have no clue what will and won't be on the table . . . soon. My suspicion is the Trump Administration is about to teach Obama acolytes what a shovel-ready project is and how it benefits average American citizens and not a select few. That's just me. YMMV.

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Looks like Curry's lobbying paid off.

$12.5 million in the state's 2018-2019 budget to begin demolition of the Hart Bridge.

Specifically, the $12.5 million would cover demolition of the section separating the sports complex from Memorial Park.

If the state legislature approves the overall budget on Sunday, we're on our way to getting the job started.

http://www.jacksonville.com/news/20180310/state-budget-has-money-for-river-keystone-lakes-and-bridge-project
« Last Edit: March 10, 2018, 02:21:36 PM by KenFSU »