https://www.wokv.com/news/local/paving-the-way-for-progress-depth-proposed-hart-bridge-ramp-removal-project/VGsNzvtq2saby2IVu55i1J/Looks like they've released some of the concept plans! WOKV doesn't have t e highest quality, but they have cropped sections in the lower portion of the article. Finally, y'all can see what I'm talking about. These are the latest plans we'v worked with COJ on. The sidewalk is in blue, BTW
It looks like maybe there are bike lanes included? I can't quite tell.
6-lanes is probably necessary since that is the main road to the sports complex. Wish they would trim that down to 4 with two dedicated wide bike lanes and sidewalks on either side. Make it more focused on bike use and pedestrians. That area needs to be walkable if they envision all this development.
As for the pedestrians, having sidewalk on the westerly side of that little stretch beneath the ramps makes little sense, why would you have two pathways beneath the bridge, creating more pedestrian crossing points across the busier roadway?
Quote from: jax_hwy_engineer on August 14, 2018, 03:03:48 PMAs for the pedestrians, having sidewalk on the westerly side of that little stretch beneath the ramps makes little sense, why would you have two pathways beneath the bridge, creating more pedestrian crossing points across the busier roadway? One of the challenges in our urban environment is sidewalks that just "end". In this example, one of Intuition's parking areas is on the other side of Bay Street. With the rendering, a person leaving intuition would have to cross APR, cross Westbound Bay, cross Eastbound Bay, then cross APR again (potentially) to get to their car.We can't always prioritize the car over the pedestrian, especially not downtown.
< snip >Reversible lanes shouldn't be a problem, you just have to end the reversible lanes before you go back to a divided roadway, just like what happens on Bay Street just east of the APR Street intersection.
Looking at it closely again, we've designed a pedestrian crossing point right there at Intuition's main parking lot. You can see the little splotch of blue peeking out from under the bridge, so it'll actually be an improvement over what's out there today since you'll have a pedestrian refuge area between the westbound and eastbound lanes. Looks like the problem wasn't ever even a problem, and is actually an improvement.