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Medical Office Building Proposed in Brooklyn
« on: March 07, 2016, 03:00:04 AM »

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Re: Medical Office Building Proposed in Brooklyn
« Reply #1 on: March 07, 2016, 08:14:32 AM »
This looks a hell of a lot better than 616.

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Re: Medical Office Building Proposed in Brooklyn
« Reply #2 on: March 07, 2016, 08:45:11 AM »
I'd like a little more density, but this does look like they made an effort to comply with urban design principles (sea of parking aside). It's not bad.

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Re: Medical Office Building Proposed in Brooklyn
« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2016, 09:05:33 AM »
Meh. Pretty bland.

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Re: Medical Office Building Proposed in Brooklyn
« Reply #4 on: March 07, 2016, 10:37:42 AM »
It's okay. I'd love to see them "flip" the first floor layout on it's horizontal axis, so the retail is at the corner of Park and Roselle instead of at park and the private drive.

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Re: Medical Office Building Proposed in Brooklyn
« Reply #5 on: March 07, 2016, 10:51:30 AM »
The building is what you'll find common in the burbs but I'm fine with it. It meets the street well and it's an improvement over what's sitting on those properties today.
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Re: Medical Office Building Proposed in Brooklyn
« Reply #6 on: March 07, 2016, 10:58:53 AM »
I like the design, it is simple but seems to be good quality and functional.  However, I know it is probably owner driven and the result of current conditions, but they could probably do away with the surface lot on the Park side of the site if employees were expected to be able to walk the 1 block from the 2 massively huge parking garages down the street that can't possibly be full even during heavy hours.  We cannot afford to keep developing sites that only utilize 10% of the site for the actual building it was intended for with the rest being dedicated almost exclusively to parking.  We can't keep doing this in suburban settings let alone more urban settings.  Perhaps down the road when Brooklyn fills in a little more street facing property on Park may be more valuable and they could develop storefront between the proposed building and the adjacent property.
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Re: Medical Office Building Proposed in Brooklyn
« Reply #7 on: March 07, 2016, 11:06:52 AM »
I understand what you're saying but I don't believe either of those garages are public.

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Re: Medical Office Building Proposed in Brooklyn
« Reply #8 on: March 07, 2016, 11:27:03 AM »
Looks fine to me.  During the 80's, 616 was B&B Liquors. Package store and lounge.  It was the after work watering hole for area evening shift workers (Times Union, railroad, print shop, Kings Rd post office, etc.).  Ahhhh.  Good times.  :-)
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Re: Medical Office Building Proposed in Brooklyn
« Reply #9 on: March 07, 2016, 12:02:26 PM »
The building is an improvement but like everyone else, I really don't like the huge amount of parking. Brooklyn already has too much of a suburban design for where it is next to DTJax. We already see how it and the southbank are pretty much just big office parks instead of urban neighborhoods. However, investment is good. I hope the DDRB at least gives a little push back on the size of the parking lot.

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Re: Medical Office Building Proposed in Brooklyn
« Reply #10 on: March 07, 2016, 12:29:38 PM »
I understand what you're saying but I don't believe either of those garages are public.

I understand what you are saying but is there a way to share?  My five year old has been learning that concept for a while now and it seems pretty basic.   Seems silly to have two mammoth parking garages solely dedicated to the larger companies that may own them.  Especially if there are plenty of spots typically available if it can cut back on the required dedicated parking in the surrounding area.  Just a thought.
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Re: Medical Office Building Proposed in Brooklyn
« Reply #11 on: March 07, 2016, 12:32:29 PM »
At last the old abandoned McDonald's will be gone. 

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Re: Medical Office Building Proposed in Brooklyn
« Reply #12 on: March 07, 2016, 12:43:58 PM »
My experience with getting mohs done is that the patient can be there most of the day.  They remove a layer of the lesion and then you wait for the pathologist to determine if what's left is cancer free.  They remove another layer and test again if necessary.  This means MANY patients waiting through testing periods thus the need for a lot of parking.
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Re: Medical Office Building Proposed in Brooklyn
« Reply #13 on: March 07, 2016, 01:49:46 PM »
That is a lot of parking.  Park could use a diet and add some on-street parking.  I would like to see the lot fronting Park be eliminated along with the ingress/egress directly on Park.
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Re: Medical Office Building Proposed in Brooklyn
« Reply #14 on: March 07, 2016, 02:01:37 PM »
I understand what you're saying but I don't believe either of those garages are public.

I understand what you are saying but is there a way to share?  My five year old has been learning that concept for a while now and it seems pretty basic.   Seems silly to have two mammoth parking garages solely dedicated to the larger companies that may own them.  Especially if there are plenty of spots typically available if it can cut back on the required dedicated parking in the surrounding area.  Just a thought.

There has to be something in it for the parking garage owners. One is Florida Blue, the other is FNF/FIS/Black Knight. Florida Blue's garage is full from 9-5 Mon-Fri - if it wasn't, they'd sell the riverfront lot they also own. Fidelity's isn't full, but I think you'd be hard pressed with them allowing outside folks in there.

Though I agree with the road diet (one lane in either direction is fine), the biggest issue is economics. The reason that they build large lots? They can....land is cheap. If you look at Riverside, it's not often that people build parking lots, because the land is much more valuable as a building then a parking lot. Right now, that's not the case in that particular area.