Author Topic: How to fit a gas station into Brooklyn  (Read 58168 times)

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Re: How to fit a gas station into Brooklyn
« Reply #16 on: March 04, 2016, 12:49:51 PM »
List is out of date, Steve Arrington retired from JTA a couple years ago, and Calvin Burney is no longer the Planning Director.
Maybe the staff contact is still good.
The City should do a better job keeping their websites current.

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Re: How to fit a gas station into Brooklyn
« Reply #17 on: March 04, 2016, 01:58:48 PM »
I have next week's agenda packet. Here's the list of board members:

Rafael Caldera, Chairman
Frederick Jones, Vice-Chair
Joseph P Loretta, Secretary
Carol Worsham, Board Member
Roland Udenze, Board Member
Craig Davisson, Board Member
Greg Bruce, Board Member, Resigned
Wiatt Bowers, Board Member

I'll post the Gate site plan in a few minutes.
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Re: How to fit a gas station into Brooklyn
« Reply #18 on: March 04, 2016, 02:26:16 PM »


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Re: How to fit a gas station into Brooklyn
« Reply #19 on: March 04, 2016, 02:27:54 PM »
Screw Gate, and its GOB owner! Let's put a Wawa gas station in instead.

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Re: How to fit a gas station into Brooklyn
« Reply #20 on: March 04, 2016, 04:23:56 PM »
Doesn't get much worse than that. 

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Re: How to fit a gas station into Brooklyn
« Reply #21 on: March 04, 2016, 04:34:56 PM »
Those flowers are just lipstick on a pig.  Hopefully that Wiatt Bowers guy talks some sense into everyone.

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Re: How to fit a gas station into Brooklyn
« Reply #22 on: March 04, 2016, 04:48:34 PM »
The site is basically a square. If you flip it, you end up with a similar layout, except the store would be along Park and the gas canopy would face I-95.  If you rotated the same plan to make the canopy face Forest, you'd end up with a site plan that is somewhat identical to the Daily's in San Marco. Their outdoor dining area would be along Park, as opposed to being in the middle of the site. None of this probably happens, but it's doable without them having to modify the design of their store, gas canopy and car wash buildings.
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Re: How to fit a gas station into Brooklyn
« Reply #23 on: March 07, 2016, 12:18:36 PM »
If the store is only going to have one entrance/exit, for security reasons, and it will be facing the pumps, why is it better for pedestrians and cyclists to have the back of the store along Park Street with no entrance on that side?
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Re: How to fit a gas station into Brooklyn
« Reply #24 on: March 07, 2016, 05:15:15 PM »
I love how they always place a bunch pedestrians enjoying their pleasant walk around the local gate gas station in the rendering. End of the day, the scene is not going to look like this at all.

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Re: How to fit a gas station into Brooklyn
« Reply #25 on: April 14, 2016, 09:33:23 AM »
I love how they always place a bunch pedestrians enjoying their pleasant walk around the local gate gas station in the rendering. End of the day, the scene is not going to look like this at all.

That always bothers me as well.  I take it as a sign that they know what people want, they are just incapable of actually building it.
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Re: How to fit a gas station into Brooklyn
« Reply #26 on: April 14, 2016, 09:54:03 AM »
Putting the store up front on the street would be such an easy fix. So sad.  :-[

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Re: How to fit a gas station into Brooklyn
« Reply #27 on: April 14, 2016, 10:48:20 AM »
Consider the source, GATE and the PEYTON family. In FY 2008, the company ranked #338 on the Forbes list of America's Largest Private Companies. These were the same people that brought us 'Little Johnny Peyton,' a mayor that not only didn't want to hear another point of view, he actively worked to shut it down. His appearance at a charrette about the Children's Space in Metropolitan Park was poison. What should have been a well attended community planning session to redesign the space started with 'A word from the Mayor...'

Yeah, I couldn't believe the stunt Lil' Johnny pulled at the charette for Kids Campus. After the room was split into 8-10 work groups the mayor stood up in front and told us, (close paraphrase) "thanks for coming to the charette...this is how the city gets input from the community on how to best plan for our future. We all know the stadium area gets completely jammed when the Jaguars or UF are playing and we desperately need "flex space". We'd love to see a clear area where families can have picnics, fly kites, and chase butterflies. So in your design's remember we need the space..." Then like a bunch of lemmings the groups dutifully fell into line and one by one swept the boards clean.

When the plans were all turned in it was pretty obvious the Children had been tossed under the bus.

On the subject of the Skyway, JTA, Commuter Rail, etc. Peyton stonewalled MJ's attempt at dialog, he simply didn't want to hear it. So any wonder they have taken this stance over the citizens of the City? In Jacksonville there are only two rules regarding Gate or the Peyton families projects;
Rule One - 'Peyton Wins'
Rule Two - 'If you have questions, see rule one'

Get ready for it Brooklyn, the great and powerful hath spoken.
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Re: How to fit a gas station into Brooklyn
« Reply #28 on: April 14, 2016, 10:13:25 PM »
I don't know if this is the place to announce this or not but I am interested in starting a resident-based community activist group to try and influence development in Brooklyn.  I have almost zero experience in this type of activity but I know if someone doesn't do something we are going to end up with more of the same - and that isn't good enough.  If anyone would like to get involved and help I would like to meet with them on the steps of Unity Plaza on April 23rd at 2PM.  If just 2 or 3 people showed up it would be a start.
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Re: How to fit a gas station into Brooklyn
« Reply #29 on: April 15, 2016, 09:49:18 AM »
I don't know if this is the place to announce this or not but I am interested in starting a resident-based community activist group to try and influence development in Brooklyn.  I have almost zero experience in this type of activity but I know if someone doesn't do something we are going to end up with more of the same - and that isn't good enough.  If anyone would like to get involved and help I would like to meet with them on the steps of Unity Plaza on April 23rd at 2PM.  If just 2 or 3 people showed up it would be a start.

Start a new thread.  People may not see it buried back here.