New Downtown Living: Broadstone River House Apartments

[TimmyB]

Construction is underway at this site. Land clearing was taking place earlier today.

Hey, Lake, I know this thread is about the downtown site, but I was wondering if you had seen any progress on the new apartments at the Tamaya site.  Haven't heard much, other than the original announcement.

[FlaBoy]

Construction is underway at this site. Land clearing was taking place earlier today.

 

What is the timetable?

[acme54321]

Does anyone know if there are environmental issues on this site?

They have a few random pits excavated, one large one is right up against the DCSB and the riverwalk.  The material removed is all piled up next to the pit and covered in plastic.  There was a fairly strong fertilizer/pesticide type smell coming off of it.  There was also a semi with a dump trailer that was loaded up and covered next to one of the other holes.  I think they're doing remediation right now.  Whatever it is in that soil doesn't smell pleasant 

[acme54321]

Construction is underway at this site. Land clearing was taking place earlier today.

 

What is the timetable?

Probably similar to 220 Riverside.  18months?

[Jomar]

Looks like the property has been mostly cleared.  Here's the view as of this morning:

[ProjectMaximus]

I'm with ya! I've driven by on a couple occasions for no reason other than to imagine/fantasize what it will look like once completed. That and the District.

[acme54321]

A piece of a wall has gone up!!!! Sorry, but for this area, that is pretty exciting.

Looks like the beginnings of the parking deck!

[jaxnyc79]

With the development of new structures in the urban core of Jacksonville, is the city giving much thought to how things appear at the street-level?  Like do the layouts of these developments make sense for a pedestrian?  When walking along the sidewalks of downtown Jacksonville, will pedestrians feel engaged?  Will there be a sensible and intuitive way to walk from one land use to another, to take in structures and get the most out of the streetscape?  Or will things feel disjointed, disoriented, and isolated with perhaps solid walls lining sidewalks or vast lawns distancing you from the built environment?

I haven't looked closely at any building plans, but from the artist renderings, they look like "residential resorts," somewhat nice to look at from the acosta bridge, but not really contributing to street-level vibrancy.  You're almost better off with no development than the imposing, windowless, and uninviting walls of a high-rise, and the dead and deserted stillness enveloping the streets below.

[thelakelander]

For the most part, the newer developments seem to integrate well with the built environment surrounding them. For example, Broadstone comes right up to the street with residential units that interact with Prudential Drive. Plus the garage is located in the middle of the property and blocked from public view.

[Tacachale]

I'd say we're not perfect yet, but much better than we used to be.

[FlaBoy]

Still wish there were a little bit of retail on Prudential for the future...

[thelakelander]

I'm not too concerned about retail being in every infill project. When you look at the surrounding context, you have the potential for retail coming back next door (see conceptual plan on the left) and the District will have more than enough.

[tufsu1]

With the development of new structures in the urban core of Jacksonville, is the city giving much thought to how things appear at the street-level?  Like do the layouts of these developments make sense for a pedestrian?  When walking along the sidewalks of downtown Jacksonville, will pedestrians feel engaged?  Will there be a sensible and intuitive way to walk from one land use to another, to take in structures and get the most out of the streetscape?  Or will things feel disjointed, disoriented, and isolated with perhaps solid walls lining sidewalks or vast lawns distancing you from the built environment?

The DDRB evaluates just these issues when voting projects up or down.  There are often trade-offs, and sometimes too much compromise, but they do consider the street-level pedestrian feel.

[Tacachale]

With the development of new structures in the urban core of Jacksonville, is the city giving much thought to how things appear at the street-level?  Like do the layouts of these developments make sense for a pedestrian?  When walking along the sidewalks of downtown Jacksonville, will pedestrians feel engaged?  Will there be a sensible and intuitive way to walk from one land use to another, to take in structures and get the most out of the streetscape?  Or will things feel disjointed, disoriented, and isolated with perhaps solid walls lining sidewalks or vast lawns distancing you from the built environment?

The DDRB evaluates just these issues when voting projects up or down.  There are often trade-offs, and sometimes too much compromise, but they do consider the street-level pedestrian feel.

I wouldn't say there's "sometimes" too much compromise. We need more folks like you on that board.

[tufsu1]

With the development of new structures in the urban core of Jacksonville, is the city giving much thought to how things appear at the street-level?  Like do the layouts of these developments make sense for a pedestrian?  When walking along the sidewalks of downtown Jacksonville, will pedestrians feel engaged?  Will there be a sensible and intuitive way to walk from one land use to another, to take in structures and get the most out of the streetscape?  Or will things feel disjointed, disoriented, and isolated with perhaps solid walls lining sidewalks or vast lawns distancing you from the built environment?

The DDRB evaluates just these issues when voting projects up or down.  There are often trade-offs, and sometimes too much compromise, but they do consider the street-level pedestrian feel.

I wouldn't say there's "sometimes" too much compromise. We need more folks like you on that board.

My term ended in June and was not renewed....interpret as you will