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southsider1015

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Re: FDOT's First Coast Expressway
« Reply #90 on: April 27, 2015, 12:31:49 PM »
Anyway, I understand you believe the FCE is the greatest thing to happen in Jax since consolidation. I'm of the opinion we've got a Polk Parkway II on our hands. I guess time will tell. So we'll have to agree to disagree.

Agree that time will tell.  But unfortunately, as another poster has mentioned, the metrics in which we debate on whether a specific investment in public infrastructure will be worth it are SO subjective.  It's really hard to see the benefits outweigh the costs because of the thousands of variables, people, and outside influences involved.

Until we have more information to discuss, I've been really quiet on this discussion.  It's just debating the same topic over and over.

The project is moving forward.  ROW and environmental mitigation is funded.  Construction will soon be funded, too.  It's going to be a reality soon enough.

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Re: FDOT's First Coast Expressway
« Reply #91 on: April 27, 2015, 12:43:29 PM »
I'd be interested to see how soon the segment between Blanding and I-95 is completed and open to traffic.  I believe it's still a good decade away, at a minimum.
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Re: FDOT's First Coast Expressway
« Reply #92 on: May 02, 2015, 06:57:35 PM »
I'd be interested to see how soon the segment between Blanding and I-95 is completed and open to traffic.  I believe it's still a good decade away, at a minimum.

Maybe.  It'll be built in 4-lane sections (not 8), and will phased in segments.

Blanding to Henley will probably be next.  Then, either Henley to US 17, or Shands to US 17.  St. Johns County will probably be last. 


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Re: FDOT's First Coast Expressway
« Reply #93 on: May 03, 2015, 06:51:52 PM »
I'd be interested to see how soon the segment between Blanding and I-95 is completed and open to traffic.  I believe it's still a good decade away, at a minimum.
Sorta like best-case-scenario full completion of The Shipyards project, huh ? ? ?

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Re: FDOT's First Coast Expressway
« Reply #94 on: May 03, 2015, 07:03:36 PM »
And Westside Industrial is a good five miles up the road from Cecil Commerce, not exactly what I would call practically across the street of the I-10 / Cecil Commerce area.

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Re: FDOT's First Coast Expressway
« Reply #95 on: May 03, 2015, 09:12:16 PM »
If you're familiar with industrial site selection then you would agree that they are literally across the street. Nevertheless, much of the stuff shown in the Shipyards plan is a pipe dream. A 10 year build out would be impressive for a place like Miami. Given our market, I'd expect things to drag out a lot longer than 10.
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Re: FDOT's First Coast Expressway
« Reply #96 on: May 03, 2015, 09:17:16 PM »
Maybe.  It'll be built in 4-lane sections (not 8), and will phased in segments.

Blanding to Henley will probably be next.  Then, either Henley to US 17, or Shands to US 17.  St. Johns County will probably be last. 

the travel demand forecasts only support the portion in St. Johns County.  The portions between SR 21 and US 17 are dogs

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Re: FDOT's First Coast Expressway
« Reply #97 on: June 30, 2015, 02:52:49 PM »
Hmmm . . . logistics, relief of traffic congestion, etc. Will wonders never cease. Get beyond the navel gazing & look down the road 15 years, urban core enthusiasts:

http://www.bizjournals.com/jacksonville/news/2015/06/26/this-transportation-project-is-a-big-win-for.html

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Re: FDOT's First Coast Expressway
« Reply #98 on: June 30, 2015, 03:06:41 PM »
^ this is the case all over the state.  FDOT is all about highway projects right now that enhance trade & logistics.  They aren't nearly as interested in providing true mobility options for Florida's residents

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Re: FDOT's First Coast Expressway
« Reply #99 on: June 30, 2015, 03:08:42 PM »
^Shockingly..... ;), I'm fine with the FCE being extended between I-10 and US 90. Given interchange spacing between 301 and Chaffee Road, the amount of truck traffic and the number of large industries those trucks are accessing off US 90/Beaver, it makes all the sense in the world.
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Re: FDOT's First Coast Expressway
« Reply #100 on: April 05, 2018, 10:45:07 PM »
The final phase of the FCE into St. Johns County connecting to I-95 has been funded, including the new Shands Bridge. $763 million, $317 million going to the bridge itself. It'll be done in 12 years.

https://www.news4jax.com/traffic/with-1st-phase-of-first-coast-expressway-almost-done-get-ready-for-tolls_

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Re: FDOT's First Coast Expressway
« Reply #101 on: February 05, 2019, 08:55:21 PM »
If you're familiar with industrial site selection then you would agree that they are literally across the street. ...............

Perhaps interesting to note that during Clay County Brannon Chaffee Sector Plan proceedings  DCA scaled back Clay's aspirations for Industrial,citing Cecil Commerce et al .
This of course infuriated some Clay interests,no wonder State Of Florida DCA oversight process was scaled back.

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Re: FDOT's First Coast Expressway
« Reply #102 on: February 06, 2019, 03:32:06 PM »
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