Author Topic: Time to Demolish Former Courthouse Parking Lot?  (Read 68307 times)

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Re: Time to Demolish Former Courthouse Parking Lot?
« Reply #15 on: February 10, 2015, 11:19:59 AM »
Paddle boats would not be the best idea for this location, unless it was roped off. The current there is insane, not to mention there's quite a bit of traffic in the area, the speed limit doesn't go down to 25 until you get to the main street bridge, far too dangerous to be mixing w/paddle boats.
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Re: Time to Demolish Former Courthouse Parking Lot?
« Reply #16 on: February 10, 2015, 11:27:18 AM »
Yes, paddle boats would only work if you removed the two block parking lot on pilings north of Coastline Drive and somehow blocked it off a bit to separate it from the rest of the river.
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Re: Time to Demolish Former Courthouse Parking Lot?
« Reply #17 on: February 10, 2015, 11:38:13 AM »
I think it's possible to access the Berkman garage from the north and the south.

There is currently only one access to the garage.  It's off Liberty, but on dry land.

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Re: Time to Demolish Former Courthouse Parking Lot?
« Reply #18 on: February 10, 2015, 03:09:29 PM »

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Re: Time to Demolish Former Courthouse Parking Lot?
« Reply #19 on: February 10, 2015, 03:54:21 PM »
Judging from the engineering reports by FDOT over the years (structurally deficient, basically intolerable requiring high priority of corrective action), and the fact that the state just DECREASED funding for our 8 county district from $21 million to $18 million, it appears that the decision to demolish the bridges has been made. It's just going to require time and gravity to do the work.  In the meantime, the area will most likely remained closed to any sort of traffic.  The city will never accept that liability.

Get used to the crumbling eyesore.  I hope it doesn't make Khan change his mind about committing to this city.

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Re: Time to Demolish Former Courthouse Parking Lot?
« Reply #20 on: February 10, 2015, 06:00:39 PM »
As I see it, as long as Berkman access was maintained (which is I think all on solid land), and Hyatt access is kept (I think it's doable), then dump it. The only other thing that might get sticky: there is a concrete slab at the river walk adjacent to the parking garage that was supposed to be a restaraunt-obviously never built. The value of whomever owns that land will certainly plummet. However, I think it's still probably doable.

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Re: Time to Demolish Former Courthouse Parking Lot?
« Reply #21 on: February 10, 2015, 06:30:53 PM »
^ agree. And there may be no choice. I am stunned at the state budget for bridge repair.

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Re: Time to Demolish Former Courthouse Parking Lot?
« Reply #22 on: February 10, 2015, 07:05:07 PM »
And yet, driving home tonight, saw one of those huge tour buses parked next to the Hyatt on Newnan, within sight of the 3 TON LIMIT sign.  Bus was pointed away from the river, no way it could get there without driving on the weight limited bridges.  I'm betting those buses weigh more than 6,000 pounds.

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Re: Time to Demolish Former Courthouse Parking Lot?
« Reply #23 on: February 10, 2015, 07:12:12 PM »
Market and Coastline Drive is moving. Look at the bricks...

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Re: Time to Demolish Former Courthouse Parking Lot?
« Reply #24 on: February 10, 2015, 07:58:37 PM »

Probably no alternative to removing the Deck. All of it.

Kayak excursions underneath (no more!  8) ) revealed structure decay everywhere-and even the farthest Southeasterly corner section underneath the town houses not without visual clues.

Somehow,we're destined to more open space.

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Re: Time to Demolish Former Courthouse Parking Lot?
« Reply #25 on: February 10, 2015, 08:49:21 PM »
Market and Coastline Drive is moving. Look at the bricks...

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Re: Time to Demolish Former Courthouse Parking Lot?
« Reply #26 on: February 10, 2015, 09:32:21 PM »
^ agree. And there may be no choice. I am stunned at the state budget for bridge repair.
Too busy building new roads all over the state. I imagine the $2 billion it will take to eventually build the First Coast Expressway would go a long way to fixing some of our existing infrastructure that's falling apart. Just wait till it's time to replace the Mathews. No one is saving up anything for that one.
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Re: Time to Demolish Former Courthouse Parking Lot?
« Reply #27 on: February 11, 2015, 05:53:17 AM »
Paddle boats would not be the best idea for this location, unless it was roped off. The current there is insane, not to mention there's quite a bit of traffic in the area, the speed limit doesn't go down to 25 until you get to the main street bridge, far too dangerous to be mixing w/paddle boats.

Paddle Boats would be great at Unity Plaza. it's not just a retention pond.

Anyone going to the 2/11/15 Jacksonville Waterways Commission meeting at 9am in council chambers. The water taxi contract is on the agenda. Paddle boat contract next.

When the weather breaks still plan on doing a RICO loop in some of the most restricted Waterways in the state of Florida.

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Re: Time to Demolish Former Courthouse Parking Lot?
« Reply #28 on: February 11, 2015, 06:22:34 AM »
^ agree. And there may be no choice. I am stunned at the state budget for bridge repair.
Too busy building new roads all over the state. I imagine the $2 billion it will take to eventually build the First Coast Expressway would go a long way to fixing some of our existing infrastructure that's falling apart. Just wait till it's time to replace the Mathews. No one is saving up anything for that one.

Other than getting hit by a boat it seems to be in pretty good shape, according to the inspection reports. Did they ever replace that one on Atlantic that was the worst rated bridge in the state for awhile?


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Re: Time to Demolish Former Courthouse Parking Lot?
« Reply #29 on: February 11, 2015, 08:37:30 AM »
this topic ought to become a petition.